What you see IS NOT always what you get

[CBL302@xxxx]

From: CBL302 [mailto:CBL302@xxxx]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2001 11:45 PM

Subject: Re: What you see IS NOT always what you get



I just want some future Delorean Buyer to Relize,just because a
Delorean IS painted does not
mean that car was in a collision(painted Delorean)and one that is
orignal does not mean it was never involved in a major Collision,I
would say at least 15%+or- of the orignal"(unpainted) Deloreans 
were 
involved in a accident,sometime in its past, enough to do some 
frame damage,as I finally
located my 1983 Delorean and told the present owner about its past
history See past archives #5241,(I only came across it by pure 
chance,seeing a for sale ad of Vin# xxxxx at the DMCXXXX for sale 
site)I emailed him, as a make believe buyer,to find out if he knew if 
it was ever involved in a accident,and he said,No, As from all 
outside appearences you
CANNOT tell it was involved in a major collision,enough to give it a
salvage title in its past,He told me,It was brought over to a New 
York Delorean Repairer on Long Island to have some service/work 
on it(the present owner told me they (the long Island Delorean 
Repairer worked on it before I
informed him of its past history) and never noticed/informed the
owners(past or present,it was brought over there by at least two 
previous owners) about any telltale signs of MAJOR collision
repairs,(OR this Present owner was bold face lying to ME!!! to make 
a Sale)MY POINT here is if it can fool THE BEST of the Delorean 
Repairers,somebody that works on these
cars all day long,BUYER BEWARE,and check that Delorean with a fine
tooth comb,(DO A THROUGH TITLE search,and try to talk to ALL past
owners) before you plunk down that hard earned cash. Here is a copy
of the email I sent to the present owner:

I hate to be the bearer of bad news,BUT I have been searching for 
Vin
xxxxx for a VERY,VERY long time,to let the owner(s) know what carfax
reports says about vin xxxxx,(Shows on carfax as a CLEAN car)IT HAD 
a
salvage title when I bought it,first owner on title was a Joseph 
xxxxxxx(860 225-xxxx)
he was the person involved in the collision,(I bought it from 
xxxxxxx auto Sales,in
East Haven Connecticut, with a Salvage Title) Then I went through 
all
the legal channels in Connecticut,to Repair and register vin
xxxxx),as you can see for yourself,it is very hard to tell where the
repairs were made(I have a picture of the before as I got it,I also
have video of the repairs as I was doing them,this was in 1987-1988
when the collision repairs were done/completed,it was hit on the
drivers front,sustaining damage to the black underbody,I cut off a
complete section(the complete corner area up to the open where the
hollow area is for the jack,and up to the drivers wheelwell (I have
video of this)it sustained frame damage,but I only had the best in
the business(at that time) repair the frame,xxxxxxxx Motors auto 
Body (860 666xxxx)(cost
me big bucks, to have that repaired,also I
replaced all the suspension pieces on the drivers side,and of course
the Stainless steel panels,the panels replaced were the Front
fascia,Hood,Windshield (with gold tinted)lower spoiler,Drivers
fender,Drivers Door,and the Drivers Quarter Panel.also front wheel
and tire,I sold it to that next owner,the "Doctor"(a real jerk)
(with a
Connecticut "rebuilt" Title)with the UNDERSTANDING that,he would
pass
on the above history of vin#xxxxx,and the paperwork would ALWAYS 
have Rebuilt stamped to it,BUT as I now find out,that it was
never passed on(the paperwork stating "rebuilt),as I sold it to him 
at a cost of my parts and labor
only,and what I paid for it.THE good News is you Qualify for the
Carfax $5000.00 Guarantee ,I also tried to Forewarn any buyers about
Vinxxxxx,thru the DML(Delorean Mailing List) see archives dated
Dec.7.1999,all you have to do is go into the DML archives and type 
in
the vin number,and the below message will pop up.I AM REALLY REALLY 
surprised
that P X Gxxxxx did not pick-up the telltale signs of collision 
repairs.
(NOTE:THE present owner might have lied,about the last sentence!!!!)

THE main Key Point is BUYER BEWARE,all the owners of my previous 
Delorean
Vin# (xxxxx) NEVER Knew that they were buying a Delorean that had 
been
in a major accident,(because someone after my ownership "cleaned" 
the Title/paperwork)(I assumed the Salvage/ rebuilt title would 
follow the
car/could be easily traced down,and when I found out it Disappeared,
(the paperwork that told the history of its past)I was
PISSED!!!I was Totally HONEST and 100% legal when I sold it,THEN the 
person
I sold it to, or the next person , SOMEONE converted it into A CLEAN
title,with No back ground of any major Collision reports.ABOUT 
the "D" Repairer shop,NO I am only making
a point that EVEN THE BEST (MAJOR Delorean Repairers)can be 
fooled,when the car appears to
have all orignal unpainted SS panels,MOST people assume that,a 
Delorean(or
any delorean with unpainted/undamaged panels could NEVER have been 
involved
in a collision that required major rebuild,Again the main
point was/is when buying a Delorean, to TRUST NO ones word about 
the HISTORY of a car and
do a through investigation before commiting to buying.

Claude
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