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--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Josh Porter" <joshp1986@xxxx> wrote:
<SNIP>
> That is the only way the extremest know,
> the bible calls them a donkey of a man. I do think that the peace in
> the middle east is in vain. The only time there will be peace over
> there is when the Anti Christ comes according to Revalations. I'm not
> anti Arabic, one of my childhood mentors was Arabic. On top of that
> his family drills oil, how he ended up in Arkansas teaching martial
> arts is beyond me.
<SNIP>
> Josh

Josh, I totally respect you, and your words. However, we cannot simply
rely upon wishful thinking and physical inaction to save the day.

Religion is a nessisarry social construct for large groups of people.
In otherwords, it is to humans, what an Operating System is to a
computer. What you would normally consider operating parameters for an
application, are likewise the values that you hold dear. In
otherwords, it tells you what you can, and cannot do by making certain
acts "unthinkable".

You Josh are running on modern day Christianity, wheras the majority
of Arabs are still stuck on 13th century Islam. Both are religions of
peace, but have two totally different ideals of what "peace" is. You
and your church on one hand as Christians may want to try and change
negative ideals your fellow man has in his heart, through an act of
kindness, or leadership. However, a Muslim sect may want to actually
kill someone rather than help them, because they believe it is more
efficient to stop the spread of contrary thinking, rather than try and
change peoples' opinions. Those are the different parameters that you
live you lives by, that have been instilled in you, by your religions.

Is this a fair generalization? I certainly believe so. Even Salman
Rushdie agrees with this, as he recently had some modern writings
published in the UK pleading Muslims to come into the 21st century and
realize that the old ways of thinking are no longer practical to their
survival.

Now, am I saying that Chrisianity is better than Islam? Certainly not.
I don't believe that ANY religion is better than any other. We need
people to choose what kind of dogma they are comfortable with, for
better social efficiency. Just like the clothes you wear that you
chose to define you, so do we need religions as such. So if you feel
that once or twice a week isn't enough time to commune with God, then
hey, choose something else that tells you to pray more often.

However, we also need to monitor what leaders are in control of their
congregations. Just as we don't need another Ayatolla Khomeni screwing
with the worlds' economies because of his own prejudices, so do we not
need another Pat Robertson advocating the murder of other leaders, and
placing our American lives in danger, just because he wants to have a
self-righteous temper-tantrum on television. After all, the same guy
he wants to "take out", also said that they'd help us out with the
disaster from hurricane Katrina, by upping crude oil output for
gasoline and heating oil. What if things would have swung the other
way, and Venzuela would have declaired war, or acts of terrorism upon
us. Think twice about who you follow, and who you want to represent
you. Both politicly, and spiritually.

Do we need an act of the "Anti-Christ" to level the Middle East? Hell
no. Give these people basic comforts of shopping, communicating, not
having to wear burkas in public, etc. Make it a democracy, with a free
market system to boot, and we'll all be happy. Peach through
consumerism, I say. No one is gonna have time to chant, "Death to
America!" if they're awe-struck by the low prices, and values that
they can obtain at they're local Wal Mart! At this point, it'll just
take time, about another 20 years or so for the new generation of
Arabs to emerge and grow up in a kind society. After that, they'll
work for us to fight the old ways that threaten to take away their
comforts and freedoms. That will be peace. And we, mankind will have
brought it ourselves. But we need to keep on working at changing, and
modernizing the social contruct which they live by.

Like Ying and Yang, we have a balance to keep. Riddicule the
fundamentalists to keep other groups safe, yet keep people in line
without tearing apart their values that define their actions. It's
kinda like the LAMBDA emissions system that has to run itself in an
eternal cycle. But it can be done.

-Robert




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