Re: [DMCForum] Re: Hotstart (New accumulator and pump

[Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I am using Walt's rig that you mailed back. It does not appear to be 
running lean. I have not checked the spark when it is cranking though. 
Guess I'll be having Hervey send along the o-rings.

Samuel

cruznmd wrote:

>Samuel, 
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>Are you not using a fuel pressure test rig with a 3-way "T"?
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>I tried that and couldn't figure out what I was measuring either. Try 
>to get a "T" or the right test rig. You have done the right things so 
>far, but John is right. The primary pressure regulator also has a 
>check valve to maintain rest pressure. If it's leaking, you'll lose 
>it.
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>2 more things;
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>1. It is unlikely but possible that your vacuum leaks are creating a 
>lean condition while starting that prevent a hot-start. Better plug 
>them up to eliminate the possibility.
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>2. Also unlikely, but worth checking is your ballast resistor and 
>relay. Are you getting the full spark when you crank? If not, you may 
>have trouble igniting the leaner mixture when the engine is warm.
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>I mailed Walt's test rig back to him and I show that it was delivered 
>so borrow it from him and check rest pressure again. If you have good 
>rest pressure, plug those leaks, check that spark and enrich yourself 
>a hair as John suggests.
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>Hope this helps,
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>Rich
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>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Samuel <samuel_yahoo@xxxx> wrote:
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>>The new accumulator came with the car. I think the owner got it 
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>from 
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>>houston. The engine already runs fast (~1500 rpm) and has some 
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>vacuum 
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>>lines disconnected under the intake. I need to get that fixed also.
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>>Samuel
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>>John Hervey wrote:
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>>>Samuel,
>>>If you got the accumulator from me there should be a what I call 
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>Hot Start 2
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>>>kit with it. It's the O ring s that go in the fuel distributor 
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>primary
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>>>pressure regulator where it can leak down also. If that has been 
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>replaced
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>>>and it still won't start hot, then I would enrich the 02 setting 
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>just a
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>>>hair.
>>>John
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Samuel [mailto:samuel_yahoo@xxxx]
>>> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 2:24 PM
>>> To: dmcforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: [DMCForum] Hotstart (New accumulator and pump
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>>> I was having a hot start problem, the accumulator was known to 
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>be bad so
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>>> it was replaced. The hotstart persisted so the check valve on 
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>the pump
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>>> was also replaced. I still have a hot start issue and dont want 
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>to
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>>> guess. No matter how long I crank, it wont start, it has to cool 
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>for
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>>> about 2 hours. Doing a plug swap does not allow it to start, and 
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>did not
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>>> allow it to start since I've had the problem. It should be 
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>noted, the
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>>> hot start came with the car, it didnt show up recently.
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>>> I put a pressure tester on the system, as the tech manual shows 
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>on page
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>>> 62. After running the engine and letting it warm up (about 30 
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>minutes of
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>>> running), the valve was closed to the line from the pressure 
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>regulator
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>>> (so the guage shows pressure at the top of the distributor) and 
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>the
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>>> engine turned off. The pressure dropped down to ~3.5 bar, then 
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>after
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>>> about 10 minutes settled around 2.9 bar. I have managed to 
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>confuse
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>>> myself as to what I am measuring. I am unsure if i'm measuring 
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>the
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>>> control pressure, or the primary pressure.
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>>> If I am measuring the primary pressure, then that would mean the
>>> accumulator and check valve in the pump are good, so my hotstart 
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>is from
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>>> something else (note, my distributor has been messed with in the 
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>past).
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>>> If I am measuring the control pressure, then how do I measure the
>>> primary pressure (turn guage around? Thought that would measure 
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>pressure
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>>> back to the tank).
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>>> Samuel
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