[DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.
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[DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.

This kind of discussion can go back-and-forth forever. The bottom line
is use whatever you like. I prefer to know what I am putting on a car
if it claims to improve performance so some kind of testing should be
offered to substantiate the claims. To offer that other customers are
happy is too subjective. Independant testing is the preferred method.
On the positive side if the "performance" parts are less expensive
than the "stock" parts then ANY improvement is just a plus. New parts
(performance or otherwise) will ALWAYS be better than old, worn out
parts. It is great that we Delorean owners even have a choice and a
lot of that is due to John. I guess I just don't agree with his marketing.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mike.griese@... wrote:
> Welmoed - You Still Don't Get It.
> I want to know how much of a performance improvement I can expect
with ANY
> performance improvement over new, NOS parts on a well-tuned car. 
> I cannot make any comparisons between one performance improvement vs
> If you are happy with the parts - that's great.  I'm very happy for you.
> You cannot claim At All that the parts you have are any better than new,
> original spec parts because you have no measurements comparing the
two conditions.
> All you can say is that the parts you have work better (in your
opinion) than the parts
> you took out.  
> These engines are designed as a system.  Fuel delivery, air
delivery, combustion chamber
> swirl, spark onset, duration, temperature and fuel charge detonation
patterns are all interlinked.  
> Higher voltage coils, lower impedance wires, and different plug gaps
change the characteristics 
> of the spark inside the combustion chamber, which can change the way
the fuel/air mixture burns
> inside the cylinder.  Some changes can be for the better, some for
the worse.  The fact that 
> there is a relatively crude ECU in the management circuit
complicates the equation even more.
> To just claim something is "better" without stating what it is
better than is nothing but 
> marketing.  To claim something is "better" and being able to show
just how much better it is
> than a stated baseline is engineering.  I prefer engineering.  
> --
> Mike
> -------------- Original message from "welmoedj" <joe.dalton@...>:
> > The guys that want to stick to NOS stuff and claim it's better than 
> > what was in their car have a point! 
> > Nevertheless don't argue that those NOS parts are equal to modern 
> > performance technology. Proof? My car's parts (except for the coil 
> > were replaced 2005). 
> > Yet as for today I still find better (improved) responses of my car 
> > and a better mileage than before. 
> > That's not only due to the coil that has been replaced but also due 
> > to the better wires. 
> > Don't tell me that NOS cables wll perform better than cables ith a 
> > far lower resistance. Don't argue that NOS coils (28kV) do better 
> > than Flamethrower coils (40kV). 
> > That's not argueing, that's sticking your head in the sand and 
> > believe whatever the gospel tells you. 
> > If you do not believe what other people (positively) experience it's 
> > not worth the time trying to convince you! 
> > If you want to know what your money returns you in improvement and 
> > you do not believe the rest of the world, toss in your coins and test 
> > yourself. 
> > Even if John would go for it and do the dyno himself, I'm sure it 
> > would be money down the drain as again you would ignore that and say 
> > the results were "coloured". 
> > Keep sitting in your sheltered corner while the world moves on! 
> > 
> > Welmoed. 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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