Re: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.
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Re: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.

Welmoed - You Still Don't Get It.

I want to know how much of a performance improvement I can expect with ANY
performance improvement over new, NOS parts on a well-tuned car.  Otherwise
I cannot make any comparisons between one performance improvement vs another.

If you are happy with the parts - that's great.  I'm very happy for you.

You cannot claim At All that the parts you have are any better than new,
original spec parts because you have no measurements comparing the two conditions.
All you can say is that the parts you have work better (in your opinion) than the parts
you took out.  

These engines are designed as a system.  Fuel delivery, air delivery, combustion chamber
swirl, spark onset, duration, temperature and fuel charge detonation patterns are all interlinked.  
Higher voltage coils, lower impedance wires, and different plug gaps change the characteristics 
of the spark inside the combustion chamber, which can change the way the fuel/air mixture burns
inside the cylinder.  Some changes can be for the better, some for the worse.  The fact that 
there is a relatively crude ECU in the management circuit complicates the equation even more.

To just claim something is "better" without stating what it is better than is nothing but 
marketing.  To claim something is "better" and being able to show just how much better it is
than a stated baseline is engineering.  I prefer engineering.  


-------------- Original message from "welmoedj" <joe.dalton@xxxxxxxxxx>: -------------- 

> The guys that want to stick to NOS stuff and claim it's better than 
> what was in their car have a point! 
> Nevertheless don't argue that those NOS parts are equal to modern 
> performance technology. Proof? My car's parts (except for the coil 
> were replaced 2005). 
> Yet as for today I still find better (improved) responses of my car 
> and a better mileage than before. 
> That's not only due to the coil that has been replaced but also due 
> to the better wires. 
> Don't tell me that NOS cables wll perform better than cables ith a 
> far lower resistance. Don't argue that NOS coils (28kV) do better 
> than Flamethrower coils (40kV). 
> That's not argueing, that's sticking your head in the sand and 
> believe whatever the gospel tells you. 
> If you do not believe what other people (positively) experience it's 
> not worth the time trying to convince you! 
> If you want to know what your money returns you in improvement and 
> you do not believe the rest of the world, toss in your coins and test 
> yourself. 
> Even if John would go for it and do the dyno himself, I'm sure it 
> would be money down the drain as again you would ignore that and say 
> the results were "coloured". 
> Keep sitting in your sheltered corner while the world moves on! 
> Welmoed. 

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