Re: [DML] FanZilla versus the EBay competitor for Fan Controller Idle St
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Re: [DML] FanZilla versus the EBay competitor for Fan Controller Idle Stall

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxx> 

I'll be happy to answer your question and I'll keep it very simple. 
While the original module caused numerous lock-ins, dead batteries, 
and burnt out solenoids I challenge you or anyone on the list to 
point out a single instance of this on a Lockzilla equiped car. Of 
all the "Zilla's" LZ is probably the most reliable with a failure 
rate I can count on one hand...with spare digits! It isn't my place 
to second guess "Bobzilla" on his design but perhaps he felt the 
original layout was a good one that was executed poorly. Thanks to 
him it isn't any longer. Speaking of executed..... why is it 
that "know it all's" like you and Martin G. keep dumping on the 
Zilla product line? It seems to be a central theme in many of your 
posts. So that is my queston for you and Martin. If you have nothing 
nice to say then perhaps you should keep it to yourselve's. After 
all thousands of satisfied "Zilla" owners can't be the gullable 
idiots you make them out to be. Does that answer your question? You 
know I'm really starting to enjoy answering these posts so keep it 


Rob Grady

> [MODERATOR NOTE: While it is possible that someone who can answer 
this question will respond, it seems unlikely.  It would be very 
unusual for a DML subscriber to be able to explain the thoughts of a 
non-subscriber.  - Mike Substelny, DML moderator of the week]
> Rob - just one question.
> if the Zilla products are so good, why didn't he redesign the Lock 
> then ?
> I took a Lockzilla apart because I was curious and what I found 
was the same
> lousy
> schematic that JZD used combined with some overkill relays and a 
> breaker.
> He didn't even reduce the standby current. I really wonder why he 
did this ?
> All this work with new housing, new PCB, wiring .... but he didn't 
> the main
> problems of the original module ?
> I haven't seen any other Zilla product yet, hopefully they are 
better than
> this one
> because after what I have seen I wouldn't waste my money for it !
> But thanks for your words about the original fan wiring. I 
installed a
> second relay
> and two CB's lately to prevent any CB tripping and I relied on the 
> wiring, too.
> The modification was not only cheap, it was also done in about 20-
> minutes.
> I use the fan fail socket for the second relay now. It looks clean 
> almost stock.
> So why install a Fanzilla (or any other aftermarket P&P product) ?
> Elvis & 6548
> John and the DML group,
> Since you brought my name into this I feel obliged to respond. 
You're right
> I don't really care for your "fan fix" as I bought one to test 
when they
> first came out and found it was nothing more than an oversized 
relay in a
> conduit box. I see from your website that you've spiffed it up a 
bit with a
> fancier box and added ATC fuse-holders but it's still just a 
large, and
> noisy when cycling on/off, relay. The "Fanzilla" is much quieter 
> smoother in operation than the "fan fix". People can say whatever 
they want
> but my experience leads me to always use the best quality part but 
> always the cheapest as my reputation depends on it.
> ...... The "fan fix" is cheaper however so it may be better
> than a fan fail link for those owners who can't afford "Zilla" 
> Cheaper doesn't make it better, or as good as, it just makes it 
> Open up any "Zilla" product and you will find a lot of electrical 
> not just a relay.
> .....
> Sincerely,
> Rob

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