Re: [doc] Help with non starter and frozen door.

["Mike" <mike.bosworth@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Dan

By the way Im the first to admit im not an expert on anything d 
related but .....
I was advised and rightly so that the battery should be charged to 
12.66 and if this didn't hold then it could cause starter / other 
problems ...which it really did on my car.... cant remember if it was 
12.2 or 12.3 i was getting at the battery but anyway it was 
kernackered. 

My car would just 'click' but not start.... new battery 12.66 
v ....never been a problem since   ( touch wood ).

Check your battery next and make sure its got the correct charge ... 
Mine was only 3 years old but still needed replacing.

Also make sure all your connections and grounds are clean and shiny 
when you put everything back in :)

Mike


--- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Daniel Shane <daniel.shane@xxxx> wrote:
> Ok, getting stranger now.
> 
> On mikes advice I checked the solenoid and the motor.  With 12 
Volts on the
> solenoid it moves out and with 12 Volts on the motor it turns, very 
strong
> infact.  I have checked the red-white wire to the solenoid and on 
flicking
> the key to stage 3 there is 12.33 volts.
> 
> I¹m thinking of taking it apart and having a look at it as it seems 
that the
> switch to spin the motor when the solenoid is out is not working.
> 
> It¹s a 5 Speed manual if that makes a difference
> 
> 
> Dan Shane
> DOC 423
> VIN 4754
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/9/04 1:27 pm, "Mike" <mike.bosworth@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> > Well just another example of how some loading companies work :(,
> > seems to me you have two problems one being the battery / starter 
and
> > the other because its been starved of fuel at the same time  ...
> > obviously once you find out the source of the starting 
problem ...the
> > fuel prob should hopefully resolve itsself.
> > 
> > Im right up in hull but there are a few members around your 
way ...im
> > sure chris p and put you in touch...????
> > 
> > Sorry your door cant open ....i bet thats a right pain on top of 
all
> > this i will email you the details i have on the adjustments of the
> > same tonight.... can you forward your email address to
> > mike.bosworth 'at' btinternet.com    ( change the 'at' to @ )
> > 
> > I would get your starter/ soinoid looked at and checked over first
> > and then take it from there....let us know how u get on matey...
> > thomas m on the list has just had the same problem on his 'Auto' 
im
> > assuming yours isnt an auto ???
> > 
> > Regards
> > 
> > Mike
> > 
> > 
> > --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Daniel Shane <daniel.shane@xxxx> 
wrote:
> >> > Hi mike,
> >> > 
> >> > First I¹m in Kent.
> >> > 
> >> > The car ran and drove to the docks in the US and James at DMCH 
has
> > said they
> >> > had no problems with it.  Looking at the car it¹s got a new
> > alternator and
> >> > this starter looked new-ish.
> >> > 
> >> > When I arrived at the Docks here the loading boys said that 
they
> > could not
> >> > get it to run on the boat and had to tow it off.  They said 
they
> > had tried
> >> > to start if for 15 Minutes with one of there booster batteries
> > attached and
> >> > it would not fire.  On pointing out it had no fuel in it they 
got
> > all
> >> > stroppy saying that there was no not of this.  It was on the 
bill of
> >> > laden!!.
> >> > 
> >> > On adding fuel I tried to start the car.  It cranked over 
twice and
> > then
> >> > refused to turn over anymore.  I fitted my booster pack and 
tried
> > and
> >> > nothing.  Just clicked.  Tried shorting the two posts on the
> > starter and
> >> > noting.  Bumped the car and it fired.  Very rough sounded like 
it
> > was
> >> > missing on a few cylinders.  I let it idle and it slowly 
started to
> > settle
> >> > down.  I drove it out of the port and stalled it.
> >> > 
> >> > Now me and the misses alone couldn't bump it so out came the 
AA to
> > bring it
> >> > home.
> >> > 
> >> > I¹m going to check the amps but I¹ve had this battery and a 
booster
> > pack on
> >> > it and it nothing.
> >> > 
> >> > The Starter also has a faint burnt smell as well!!
> >> > 
> >> > Dan Shane
> >> > DOC 423
> >> > VIN 4754
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > On 7/9/04 12:13 pm, "Mike" <mike.bosworth@xxxx> wrote:
> >> > 
> >>> > > Not been funny but i woulnt be too hasty in saying your 
starter is
> >>> > > kernackered... anyway can you get this checked over 
first...they
> > can
> >>> > > be quite expensive to replace :(
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Regards
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > Mike
> >>> > > 
> >>> > > --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Daniel Shane 
<daniel.shane@xxxx>
> > wrote:
> >>>>> > >> > Right Starter is out,
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>> > >> > there is a click from the relay and I can he the 
solenoid so I
> >>> > > think it¹s
> >>>>> > >> > the starter.
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>> > >> > Does anybody know the cross reference for the part.  I 
need to
> > get
> >>> > > it
> >>>>> > >> > running as I've got to get it into my workshop before 
It
> > rains.  Is
> >>> > > it off
> >>>>> > >> > of a Volvo ???
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>> > >> > I must say that the frame looks in excellent 
condition.  I've
> > see
> >>> > > Espirt
> >>>>> > >> > chassis from W reg cars, that¹s W 1999, in worse shape.
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>> > >> > Dan Shane
> >>>>> > >> > DOC 423
> >>>>> > >> > VIN 4754
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>> > >> > On 7/9/04 10:10 am, "Daniel Shane" <daniel.shane@xxxx> 
wrote:
> >>>>> > >> > 
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Ok, It¹s not the battery.  Charged it all night 
fitted it
> > this
> >>> > > morning and
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > still the same.
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Looks like the starter is now going to come out.  
Anything
> > nasty
> >>> > > I should
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > look out for when doing it ???
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Also still cant open the drivers door.  That 
front latch
> > wont
> >>> > > open.  Getting
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > a bit worried now.
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > Dan Shane
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > DOC 423
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > VIN 4754
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > On 6/9/04 6:12 pm, "Daniel Shane" 
<daniel.shane@xxxx> wrote:
> >>>>>>> > >>> > > 
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Help,
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > I picked up my car from Southampton 
toady and it was
> a
> >>> > > disaster.
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > The car in the states had all of the 
fuel drained off
> > and then
> >>> > > run until it
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > died of fuel starvation.  Now at this 
end there was
> no 
> > record
> >>> > > of that so >>
> >>>>> > >> > the
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > dock workers repeatedly tried to start 
it with no
> fuel 
> > and now
> >>> > > if fails to
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > turn over on the key.  The AA are 
bringing it back on
> > a low
> >>> > > loader.  Now >>
> >>>>> > >> > I¹m
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > not sure if it is a dead battery or that 
they have
> > burned out
> >>> > > the starter,
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > but if bump started it starts.
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > The second problem is the drivers door 
front latch
> > does not
> >>> > > seem to release
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > so I cant open the door. Is there any 
tricks to
> > opening it ?
> >>> > > The inside
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > panels are off and I¹ve had a fiddle 
with the rods
> but 
> > it
> >>> > > still wont open.
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Other than that 4754 looks in very good 
condition,
> > chassis
> >>> > > looks very good.
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> > Thanks
> >>>>>>>>>>> > >>>>> > >> >
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