Re: [DMCForum] Response to DW D1 add and Extreme Prices for DOA Las Vega
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Re: [DMCForum] Response to DW D1 add and Extreme Prices for DOA Las Vegas event

Ryan, that was truly incredible.  I am going to save this with my manuals.

I've always thought that the way D1 treats people that JZD himself would be
ashamed of Ed and his ethics.


On 1/4/07, Bob Brandys <BobB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hey, I value my car, too!
> Unlike many other DeLorean vendors, DeLorean One refuses to sell LED
> door lights, improved spark plugs, or xenon headlight kits. These parts
> are not original equipment, and DeLorean One worries these parts may
> "reduce the value of the car? to a prospective purchaser." See page 20
> of DeLorean World Magazine, Winter 2007.
> Let's put the value of concours aside for a moment and admit to
> ourselves that the stock DeLorean was only 80% perfect off the assembly
> line. Granted, our cars will almost never rust. Our PRV engines have
> been known to crank out over 250,00 miles. Our sleek stainless
> body-lines are bold and powerful. John DeLorean said they built his car
> with the quality and precision of a BMW. He called it "the ethical
> car."  These are all reasons why we love our cars.
> Can we also admit to ourselves that our roof seals leak, our alternator
> belts break, our windows are too small, our door locks drain our
> batteries, and our cooling fans fail? I strongly believe that DeLorean
> Motor Company would have fixed these issues, had they not been shut
> down by political pressure. Now the responsibility for reengineering
> and improving the car ? falls on us owners. As owners, we have two
> choices ? we can stagnate and cling to what the car was, or we can take
> our cars of the future forward and explore what the car would have
> been. As an owner, I feel I owe it to John to fix the few problems that
> snuck through before he had time to fix them. I want to take the dream
> that was pulled out from under DeLorean's feet and make that a reality.
> If you are of a similar mindset, no doubt you've explored some of the
> upgrades available from the many vendors out there. Vendors make
> upgraded cooling systems, door locks, door poppers, trunk poppers,
> improved alternators, stainless steel frames, and LED door lights, just
> to name a few things. All these upgrades use technology that didn't
> exist in 1981, or was prohibitively expensive at that time. As
> technology improves, we should embrace those improvements in our cars,
> take out what is now obsolete and upgrade it to the industry standard,
> keeping our cars timeless into the coming decades. Some vendors may
> feel slandered by the DeLorean One advertisement. These vendors deserve
> our respect, because they pour hundreds of hours into developing these
> modernizing kits. They work hard at keeping the dream alive.
> What made the DeLorean unique was the way it defied convention. JZD
> always expressed his interest to move forward to new technologies,
> while GM and others continued to stagnate. In his book, On a Clear Day
> you can see GM, DeLorean says that corporate stubbornness to embrace
> the future is exactly why he left to start his own company. And, when
> JZD spoke to DeLorean Car Show attendees in Cleveland, we all saw how
> excited John was about carbon-fiber bodies, because they are lighter
> and stronger. If DeLorean had been allowed to stay in business, would
> he still be using plywood shelves, defective fan relays, energy-wasting
> lock solenoids, and other substandard parts? Or would he have pushed
> his car forward, closer to the perfection embodied by the phrase, "live
> the dream" ?
> In my college ethics class, we learned the difference between intrinsic
> and extrinsic value. The intrinsic value of a DeLorean is the fun you
> get as you enjoy driving it. The many imperfections in the design hurt
> the intrinsic value, because your DeLorean experience is less joyous.
> The modifications I made to my car allow it to operate more reliably
> and confidently than when it left the factory. If I enjoy my LED door
> lights because I can leave my doors up at shows, who's to say a
> "potential purchaser" isn't going to find intrinsic value in leaving
> his doors up too? As the recent Barrett-Jackson auctions have shown,
> old cars with updated electronics and modern improvements generally
> sell for substantially more than cars with All-Original-Equipment.
> If you're worried about the resale value of your car, then you don't
> value the car intrinsically, you value the car extrinsically, or as
> means to an end.
> Ethics teaches us that it is immoral to treat people as means to an
> end. A person should have final value, not instrumental value. If you
> believe that John DeLorean's dream has final value, then you shouldn't
> be greedy about the potential resale value of your car.
> Any DeLorean owner who clings to the failings of the past out of a
> sense of nostalgia, or intends to increase their car's dollar value by
> reinstalling faulty components is a hypocrite. These DeLorean One
> purists misinterpret the essence of what it means to live John
> DeLorean's dream. There is nothing about living the dream that involves
> backward-thinking or bean-counting. If you care about how much money
> you can get in exchange for your car, then you should sell it, and go
> buy a Bentley. There's no room for prostitutes in the DeLorean
> community I know.
> -Ryan Brandys, VIN #4190
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