[DMCForum] Re: UTI

["Josh Porter" <joshp1986@xxxxxxxxx>]

The college that I go to is a teachers college for the most part. 
They only have a pre engineering course. I have found that OBD-II 
aren't that bad. Of course I'm starting out, like someone said in 
the 80's the manufacuterers changed the way they made cars. My 
Delorean is the most difficult car that I have worked on, and it is 
one of the oldest cars that I have worked on.

Josh


--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxx> 
wrote:
>
> Sounds to me like you don't want to be an engineer. So don't do it.
> besides that, the job market for engineering sucks. Every foriegn
> student from abroad is becoming one, or already is. So the entire
> market is a bit more than saturated.
> 
> However, car repair is a nice avenue... See, most old mechanics 
don't
> know modern car electronics, and HATE ODB-II control systems, and
> related components. However, if car repair is something you want to
> do, and you're already familiar and comfortable with these systems,
> you could really take that kind of a carrier by storm. Especially 
if
> as we start to seek out and utilize alternative (to gasoline) 
fuels,
> if you're experienced in these areas.
> 
> See if there is something simular to do in college, since you're
> already there. Otherwise, don't enter into a career based around a
> subject that you are not all that fond of. You'll be miserable the
> rest of your life, and frustrated every day you show up for work.
> 
> -Robert
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Josh Porter" <joshp1986@xxxx> 
wrote:
> >
> > I know that math is something that I will always need to know 
but 
> > Engineering is all math. I can do math but it is not my favorite 
> > subject. My dad told me to think. If all the careers paid the 
same, 
> > what would I want to be doing right now? Working on old cars. 
Now I 
> > know that I don't know much about DeLoreans because they are a 
> > different car then any other that I have worked on. I also had 
the 
> > right tools needed for the job.
> > 
> > Josh
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "therealdmcvegas" 
<dmcvegas@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Well, wherever you go, you're going to need math. It's not 
that 
> > you're
> > > going to be using formulas as they exactly appear in your 
textbooks
> > > your're entire life. After all, simple addition, and 
subtraction is
> > > all you need to balance a simple checkbook. But you need to 
learn
> > > things like algebra, because it teaches you a thought process 
that
> > > you'll need.
> > > 
> > > Car repair is the perfect example.
> > > 
> > > Here is a simple algebra problem: 1+X=3. To solve it, you have 
to
> > > think backwards, and see what is missing from the equasion. 
Your 
> > end
> > > goal is the value of "3", and you know that you already have a 
> > value
> > > of "1" in the equasion. So you take away what you already know 
you
> > > have, and you'll discover that the answer to 1+X=3 is "2". So 
the
> > > correct formula when sovled appears as: 1+2=3.
> > > 
> > > Now apply that to car repair. You press the headlight switch 
on 
> > your
> > > car, and the headlights do not come on. So, you've got an 
equation 
> > of:
> > > "Push Headlight Switch+X=Headlights Turn On".
> > > 
> > > So, you've got one part of the equasion, the value of "Push 
> > Headlight
> > > Switch", and you've got the end value that you want to obtain:
> > > "Headlights Turn On". So now you've got the "equation" laid 
out, 
> > and
> > > you troubleshoot everything accordingly. So, let's say that the
> > > problem is a burned out fuse. You replace it, and everything 
works
> > > now. So the answer to this equasion is: "Push Headlight 
> > Switch+Recieve
> > > Power From Fused Source=Headlights Turn On".
> > > 
> > > That's the goal of many mathematical courses. Not always to 
bug you
> > > with formulas that the average person won't use in their 
lifetime, 
> > but
> > > to teach you new thought processes that you can utilize to 
better
> > > solve problems.
> > > 
> > > Now yes, there are many carreers out there where you're going 
to 
> > need
> > > to use the literal formulas themselves. You may have to figure 
out 
> > the
> > > square footage of an area to know how much cement you need to 
> > order,
> > > and pour. You'll need some pretty complex knowlege to be able 
to 
> > map
> > > out a turbo charger. If you for some reason get mixed up in 
the 
> > world
> > > of call centers (God help you if you do), you'll have to apply 
> > Erlang
> > > C to forcast daily call volume.
> > > 
> > > In short, there is no easy way around math in any career. 
However, 
> > you
> > > also need to recognize that math is also not a hinderence to 
you. 
> > It's
> > > something that you can utilize, and exploit to your advantage. 
It 
> > just
> > > may take something to click properly for you. If you're not 
100%
> > > comfortable with it, I'd reccomend getting some Middle School 
level
> > > math learning software, and work your way up outside of class. 
> > Start
> > > simple, and gain that confidence.
> > > 
> > > You're in college already, and that's a big step. It's also 
not 
> > easy
> > > to go back once you've left. So that's something that you'll 
want 
> > to
> > > definetly consider. However, if it's just a major that you 
want to
> > > change, then just do that. If you decide that a degree in 
> > Engineering
> > > isn't something that you want, because the field isn't 
appealing to
> > > you, or eeven the job market once you get out, then great! 
Better 
> > to
> > > know now, rather then after you've got all that time and money
> > > invested. Hell, you may even change majors a few times durring
> > > college. And that's fine. But first give things a shot, and 
change
> > > your majors, rather than abandoning college altogether. You 
can 
> > always
> > > change back a major. But leaving college is a pretty big step, 
that
> > > isn't always as easy to reverse back as you might think. But 
if a
> > > trade school for a particular field of employment that you'd 
enjoy
> > > doing, and reaping the benefits from is what you really want 
to do,
> > > then only you can make that decision.
> > > 
> > > -Robert
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Josh Porter" 
<joshp1986@xxxx> 
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > No not the computer support services but the tech schools. 
Does 
> > anyone 
> > > > know anyone who has gone there? I'm going to a university 
but 
> > uh, lets 
> > > > just say that it turns out that I don't enjoy what I thought 
I 
> > wanted 
> > > > to do. Darn Math.
> > > > 
> > > > Josh
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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