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Mike,

As for who invited me to join.  Walt knows who it was?

Here are my major references (there hundred of smaller ones - I have
over 1,000  references in 10 5 drawer file cabinets)

The American Journal of Public Health
Morbidity and Mortality Weekly
Journal of the Air and Waste Management Association
Professional Safety
American Industrial Hygiene Journal
Indoor Environment Communications
National Asbestos Council
Health Industries Manufacturer Association (I served on the this trade
association committees for 8 years)
NIOSH Retrospective Study of Ethylene Oxide Exposure
Cotton Dust standard exemption for medical grade cotton - I authored
this for Johnson and Johnson
The Wall Street Journal
My numerous (PEER REVIEWED) publications.

I read all of these on a daily and monthly basis
1968 to Present

Mike your statements exactly support what I said

if you use your seat belt, your chances of survival are enhanced
93% (EPA STATS). Gee, I thought the National Highway transportation
agency did traffic safety statistics. EPA is not a traffic safety agency
or expect.

survival- Gee I like being a quadriplegic.   Yes, can survive but NOT
WITHOUT MAJOR Serious PERMANENT INJURIES. .AIR BAGS PREVENT MAJOR
INJURIES - CHECK THE FACTS.


Talk to the mother who had a parking
lot fender bender, at 7MPH and her daughter died cause
the airbag did it's job.  Notice--no mention that she
was standing up and not in her seat belt.


EXactly my point Mark.  THE OLDER AIR BAGS DID NOT DO THIS. ONLY THE NEW
KILLER TYPE THAT COMES OUT AT 200 MPH and chop kids head off.

THIS WOULD NEVER HAVE HAPPENED WITH THE OLDER AIR BAG DESIGN THAT COMES
FROM UNDER THE DASH BOARD AND INFLATES WITH A NITROGEN CYLINDER.  CHECK
THE FACTS.

Mike, Again you total agree with me!  Thanks

until you've seen a "highwall"
collapse on your foreman, and then 16 hours later, you
drill a hole where "you think he is" and  you pull the
drill bit out, and guess what, he follows the bit out
along with 3 of your best friends, only cause you
said, "It's an extra 45 minutes to pull it out and
check our progress.

MIKE,  I am a safety expert and have supported job safety issue for my
whole career.  YES, coal mining is a very hazardous job and the
coal mining companies cut corner to increase profits and put worker
lives at risk.

This is my point exactly,  we need to change the focus of this country
and business from profit to quality of life.

MIKE, AGaIN you agree with me.

Bull Pucky---Sorry ladies.  If I could file a "very"
short form and Donald Trump used the same form, then I
would agree.

The rich people claim there is a progress tax system.  It is a lie.
They now are pushing a Flat tax system.  It the rich people get a flat
tax AND YOU IGNORE ALL THE OTHER TAXES I LIST  - THE TAX SYSTEM BECOMES
REGRESSIVE.

WHAT, you said an I pointed out is that WE NEED A TRUE PROGRESSIVE TAX
SYSTEM - NOT THE ONE WE HAVE NOW!


I suppose you also knew the US killed 100,000
> Philippines?

\I'll act stupid.  Mike as I said this was after the Spanish american
war in 1815+.

An actor as president?????   Mike remember the line in Back to the
Future  -Yes, that makes sense with all the TV coverage you will need
someone that looks good on TV.   Mike, do you remember one of the
reasons why Nixon lost to Kennedy in 1960s.  Because the media made fun
of his 5 o'clock shadow.   !!!
He did not look good on TV!

Remember what happened in Germany pre WWII?

I have a german friend who grew up in Germany prior to WWII.  Here is
what he tells me:

What is going on in the US today is exactly what happened in Germany
when Hitler came to power.  The religious right was pushing religious
intolerance.  Hilter was telling people what they wanted to hear  and
fear of what other countries did and could do to Germany.  Germany had
to "free" the germans in Poland and Slovakia and Russia, etc.
to save the world.  The US has now preemptively attacked another country
JUST LIKE GERMAN DID.   (YES, the US also attacked Granada, Sudan,
Libya, Loas. Cambodia, RUSSIA.  (Go research the 1918 Marines who
invaded Russia)

Given his perspective I would tend to believe him.


One last question, which son, the retired AF or the
Retired MC supports your assinine views.

The retired MC, my father, supports my views.  Did you know that 1/3 of
all the PACIFIC THEATER Casualties (8,000 solders) died on one
insignificant island in the Pacific. because the Commander insisted on
getting rid of the few Japanese that were hiding in caves.  The US has
already taken over the Island and the war front was thousands of miles
away.  All he had to do was wait, BUT NO HE HAD TO KILL THESE few
Japanese soldiers.   This commander claimed falsely to his superiors
that the few Japanese left were attacking the marines.  It was a lie,
but THE US Command kept sending more soldiers for fodder.   Such a shame. 


.   "assinine  views"   MIKE ARE YOU PREACHING  INTOLERANCE.  
RESTRICTION OF THE FIRST AMENDMENT. ?

I don't think -  one of america past heroes would agree with you who
said "I don't agree with you, but I will defend to  my death, your right
to say it. "

No offense Mike  BUT YOU HAVE NOT SUPPLIED ANY COMPREHENSIVE OVERALL
BIGGER PICTURE FACTS to disagree with the information I have posted. 

I had a coversation last night with one of my friends.  He commented
that BUSHIES answers to questions in the debates were so simple, easy to
believe black and white comments. 

Older and wiser people KNOW NOTHING IS BLACK AND WHITE.  "Everything is
relative" (Einstein) and everything is various shades of gray.
When we were kids, we liked black and white answers to questions BECAUSE
it made our worlds easy to understand.  BUT THIS AIN'T REALITY.

When, I raised my son, (who those on the Fall Tour met- and how I got my
invitation to join this group)  were impressed with his knowledge and
personality. 
I never gave him simple black and white answers - but always gave him
the full perspective of each question he asked.

The result is an honor student who also works while going to school and
is working on dual degrees. 

LIMITED PERSPECTIVES LEAD TO LIMITED MINDS>
BOB





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