Re: [DML] Re: A message to prospective DeLorean owners
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Re: [DML] Re: A message to prospective DeLorean owners



Claude:  I think the point you are missing from my post is that the book
includes a lot of the references and information you are talking about but
puts it in one nicely consolidated place. The book surely should not be the
single point of all research but is a very nice piece of work for any
delorean enthusiast or owner
On Sep 14, 2012 8:26 PM, "cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:

> Not at all..I see it as a POSITIVE step for Future delorean owners..
>
> It's a good idea, and from someone with vast knowledge of the delorean
>
> My main point is to not rely on just a book..but to get the facts and
> input from actual owners..and sites like the DML..places like YouTube with
> actual videos showing problem areas..and or repairs..no book can do that..
>
> For example last year I killed my last Riding Mower ..as I just kept
> getting "another one" when one Crapped out..finally this year,I decided to
> just rebuild what I already owned..did I get my Knowledge from "books"
> ...very little..Most came from places like YouTube and other websites..that
> give you UPDATED KNOWLEDGE..unlike a Book..that cannot be updated, with the
> latest repairs or knowledge...Now I am sooo confident..that I seek out on
> places like Craigslist,those owners who give up on their Riding Garden
> tractors..and make the Repairs and turn around and sell them..surprising
> how magically things become Simple when you acquire "The Knowledge"
>
> I Believe knowledge should be open in all aspects and not just books.
> Open your mind to all forms of Knowledge and understanding in your
> education..not just in small engine repairs as I stated above..but in your
> love of the delorean..use All available forms including James  Book as a
> part of your knowledge base..but don't just depend on the book in itself.
>
> You want to be at the point where you can walk up to a delorean and spot a
> "clunker" or "Money pit" or a "Diamond in the Rough" right off the
> bat..without the use of ANY book.
>
> I myself had no books or videos in 1982..I had to learn though trial and
> error..and I found it quite rewarding and fun at the time.Let me just say
> you guys today have a vast majority of places to educate yourselves on the
> Delorean..Use it wisely....
>
> Claude
> 1024 Bric
>
>
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kevin Abato <delorean@...> wrote:
> >
> > So basically Claude......your just pissed that James thought of taking a
> > ton of knowledge and experience and put it into writing a book and you
> > didn't?    ;)
> >
> > BTW:   Having seen the book, it is a really nice resource with
> > "consolidated" knowledge and  information.  It is also illustrated too.
> >
> > Being an owner for 11 years I found many facts I had never seen before,
> and
> > the photos helped me to understand items I had read about but did not
> > understand.    For a prospective buyer or long time owner, it is a nice
> > guide to own.
> >
> > Yes, you can spend hours online and find this info, but similar info, but
> > this is precise, consolidated, and illustrated.
> >
> > Kevin Abato
> >  On Sep 14, 2012 2:26 PM, "cbl302@..." <cbl302@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Actually..I WAS a pioneer in the restoration of Deloreans...I actually
> > > started on my first Delorean restoration Project back in 1982..while
> DMC
> > > was still in Business and there was NO outside help anywhere..You had
> to
> > > make your own ways and RULES on how to work on a
> Delorean..especially..when
> > > it came to removing the Body and Frame and removing and Installing the
> > > doors FYI..this was a car that was stolen/recovered and sat at the
> bottom
> > > of Long Island Sound for at least two weeks to a month before it was
> > > Discovered and Recovered...encrusted with barnacles..like a old ship
> being
> > > resurfaced.
> > >
> > > But I got it 70% completed before it was sold(with all NEW PARTS except
> > > the frame and black body and SS panels..were the only original parts
> used.
> > >
> > > And yes I got to know EVERY nut and Bolt..and every square inch of a
> > > Delorean..every problem that was encountered with Deloreans and all
> it's
> > > strengths and weaknesses..I can even say I was the first(or at least
> one of
> > > the first) private persons to ever take a frame off or doors(s) and
> > > reinstall them back.
> > >
> > > And I had many many more Deloreans that I restored and most if not all
> are
> > > still in use today..and one was even considered a showcar in the U.K.
> that
> > > I restored in 1987(vin.16686)and as far as I know is still in use
> today.
> > >
> > > I did not stop with Deloreans until 2006..so yes that put me more than
> 85%
> > > on the mark of your 30yrs.
> > >
> > > Claude
> > > 1024
> > > Bric
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Bob <Delorean3@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Ok claud, I'll just take your word for everything Delorean. After
> all,
> > > you spend the last 30 years repairing deloreans, right? All you do is
> knock
> > > down anything positive about the Delorean. The car, the movies that
> put the
> > > car on the map, the founder, owners on this list. I'm starting to miss
> Bill
> > > now. Give it a rest Dracula, no one cares about your opinion. Take a
> happy
> > > pill.
> > > > I think James Espey's book is a godsend to the average Delorean
> owner.
> > > Congrats on the book James. My order is on the way.
> > > >
> > > > boB
> > > > 1983
> > > > 16909
> > > >
> > > > www.bobcutrupi.com
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sent from my iPad
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sep 14, 2012, at 7:44 AM, "cbl302@" <cbl302@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Or you can come here on the DML and many..many..other sites for
> FREE,
> > > and as many Hundreds of DML'ers have done with just a quick check can
> get
> > > ALL the same answers as in your book.
> > > > >
> > > > > Just on the DML alone there are more answers for Prospective DMC
> > > buyers,from "hands on" Different buyers who actually went through the
> > > process of discovering all the flaws that come with buying a Delorean
> > > > >
> > > > > Not knocking down your book..just do NOT try to pass it off as the
> > > "Bible" of Delorean ownership...the REAL experts on Delorean ownership
> are
> > > not only you..but every owner who went through the process of
> ownership and
> > > restoration..and relayed their "hands on experiences" and there are
> plenty
> > > of examples on this site, with easy reference/lookup.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kinda reminds me of when JZD was trying to sell that DMC watch for
> BIG
> > > BUCKS(did anyone ever buy and sign that contract for the new
> generation DMC
> > > Purchase)and where is that "NEW" Generation Prototype Delorean that JZD
> > > said was MADE and being "tested"..supposed to do 0-60 in under five
> seconds.
> > > > >
> > > > > I guess you can say that is a case of another Missing Delorean
> > > Prototype.
> > > > >
> > > > > Claude
> > > > > 1024
> > > > > Bric
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "James Espey" <james@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > In 2004, I began to become acutely aware of just how little
> > > centralized
> > > > > > information regarding "what to look for and what to look out for"
> > > when
> > > > > > considering a DeLorean for purchase was available. The DML was
> great
> > > for
> > > > > > providing technical support once you bought a car, but for many
> > > buyers who
> > > > > > bought more of a project than they may have realized, this was
> too
> > > little,
> > > > > > too late. In my mind, too many buyers were paying too much for
> cars
> > > that
> > > > > > were being sold by sellers who thought their cars were worth more
> > > than they
> > > > > > actually were. This resulted in situations where new owners were
> > > getting
> > > > > > "turned off" on the DeLorean marque because the car they bought
> > > wasn't as
> > > > > > good as it was sold to them as being.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Over the past eight years on and off I put my notes, ideas and
> > > knowledge
> > > > > > about what I consider important when buying a DeLorean car onto
> > > paper. As I
> > > > > > did this, I added more and more details and then added
> photographs
> > > to help
> > > > > > illustrate the text. In June of this year, just before DCS, I
> > > completed what
> > > > > > I call "The Illustrated Buyer's Guide to DeLorean Automobiles".
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This book grew to over 31,000 words and 220+ color photos and
> > > illustrations
> > > > > > over 122 pages. The book is broken down into nine (9) major
> sections
> > > - the
> > > > > > first covers history and basic DeLorean information that you'll
> want
> > > to know
> > > > > > when looking for a DeLorean to buy. The next seven (7) sections
> are
> > > the
> > > > > > "meat" of the book and cover the main areas of the car -
> Exterior,
> > > Interior,
> > > > > > Luggage Compartment, Engine Compartment, Frame/Body/Roof, and
> Vehicle
> > > > > > Systems (i.e. Engine, Transmission, Brakes, Steering, Suspension,
> > > > > > Electrical, Fuel System, HVAC, Doors). Richly illustrated, this
> part
> > > of the
> > > > > > book is the one that you'll refer to the most - and most likely
> > > learn the
> > > > > > most from - while you're evaluating different cars to purchase.
> > > Finally, the
> > > > > > last section of the book discusses Common Problems and Cures,
> Dealer
> > > > > > Options, Factory Specials, Company Cars, Performance
> Modifications,
> > > other
> > > > > > suggested reading materials and more.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A sampling of pages in the book can be downloaded from the
> website -
> > > > > > www.deloreanguide.com - and links to order the book from Amazon,
> > > eBay,
> > > > > > Barnes & Noble and the DMC online store can also be found there.
> > > > > > Additionally, DMC Midwest (815-459-6439) and DMC Florida
> > > (239-495-8550) are
> > > > > > also stocking the book, for those who would like to order from
> them
> > > > > > directly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Good luck in your search!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > James
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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> > >
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