RE: [DML] Re: Non Ethanol Gas
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RE: [DML] Re: Non Ethanol Gas

I have had fuel support boots and fuel pump supply hoses made from Viton
rubber which have proven to be very stable in today's fuels. Although they
are superior to the parts currently sold the cost proved to be their
downfall. I sold many Viton pickup hoses at about $80- each but when an
alternative was produced for about half the price our sales dropped
drastically and I stopped having them made. I am currently checking into
using a different manufacturer to see if I can find a cheaper source. I also
made a small run of support boots but never advertised them. I have about a
dozen left but the tab for those is $99.50 each so they are pricey too. If
enough people show an interest I may make them again and the price may drop
the price if I make a larger batch. Please let us know if anyone is
interested. Like David said the venders (including us) may HAVE to make them
out of Viton or some other exotic rubber if the ethanol percentage goes
higher and it would be nice to be ahead of the curve. 


Rob Grady


P.J.Grady Inc.


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Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:58 PM
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Subject: [DML] Re: Non Ethanol Gas



I am not speaking for the vendors but to my knowledge I don't think any are
selling parts that are Ethanol-proof. That said, the rubber compounds being
produced today are better than the original parts and will probably last
better but over 10% E is pushing it. When (not if) this becomes a big enough
problem the vendors will provide the necessary parts probably in a kit. They
have to if they want to stay in business and keep the fleet running. It's
self-preservation. Not only will you have to replace hoses, "O" rings,
accumulator, seals, etc, you will have to retune the motor. You will also
see your gas mileage go down but the motor will run cleaner and the parts
will last longer.
David Teitelbaum

--- In dmcnews@yahoogroups <> .com, "Michael
Conrad" <mike@...> wrote:
> Do any of the vendors sell ethanol-proof replacement parts? Perhaps an 
> upgrade kit?
> How well will our engines run on 15% E?
> -Mike C.
> On Wed, 09 Dec 2009 09:44:37 -0500, jtrealtywebspannet 
> <jtrealty@...> wrote:
> > My Yukon is an "E-85" vehicle. I thought that meant I can use 15% 
> > Ethanol. WRONG! It means the thing will run on 85% E. And that doesn't 
> > count all of the other additives. Around here in NJ we are up to 10% 
> > already. We can't feed the world but we can put the stuff into our gas 
> > tanks. As for Deloreans, they can probably take 15% but it will 
> > eventually damage the rubber parts in the fuel system like the diaphram 
> > in the accumulator, "O" ring seals, pick-up hose, fill pipe hose, etc. I

> > really don't see what choice we would have, in many parts of the country

> > there is no non-E available unless you go to the airport!
> > David Teitelbaum
> >
> > --- In dmcnews@yahoogroups <> .com,
"daveswingle2" <swingle_dmc@> wrote:
> >>
> >> Interesting, because I was reding in the paper that the Geniuses in 
> >> Charge of Such Things are now pushing to increase the ethanol content 
> >> to 15% to help the ethanol industry out.
> >>


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