[DML] Re: Public vs Private.
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[DML] Re: Public vs Private.

Mr. Watkins.

Unfortunately, I can no longer take your support of the DOA as a 
plus.  You have become your own, and the DOA's, worst enemy.

In your post below, you have made a few faux pas which impaired your 
credibility, shared below in case you are interested.

You took a non-personal topic with potential value, and when a 
countering viewpoint was offered, you responded by attacking 
personally the individual with countering viewpoints, as opposed to 
the viewpoint itself.

You have stated that you believe that "most reasonable people" will 
agree with you.  This characteristic is very destructive to conflict 
resolution.  It basically says:  "If you disagree with me, you are 
unreasonable."  To which I say "Jump in a lake, you reasonable 
person, you."

Marc may, as you say, "have issues that none of us will ever be able 
to resolve."  So do I.  So do you.  It's irrelevant, and bringing 
that fact up is a diversionary tactic from any real issues.  By 
attacking the arguer, instead of the argument, you have lost 
credibility with me, and set the DOA back in my esteem by being a 
inept, and possibly dishonest and manipulative spokesperson.  

The "new" DOA will have to regrain trust in the Delorean community by 
refraining from the alienating behavior that got it into trouble in 
the first place.  It is very difficult to prove the absense of 
something, so it may take a good long time.  It cannot be proven by 
promotion.  Repeated trumpeting of "just give them a chance..." just 
raises suspicion to me.  They must win trust back quietly, 
steadfastly, and by repeatedly being a positive influence.  They 
don't need spokespeople.  Their actions will do their talking.

I think the most sensible thing said on the topic was posted by 
Claude, who wrote something along the lines of "blah blah blah, 
children, why don't you park your Deloreans..."

I attribute it to chance.

Rick Gendreau.


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "outatime81" <outatime81@...> wrote:
> I want to say I am sorry to the members of this board for having to 
> read these lengthy diatribes.  I believe that most reasonable 
> can decide for themselves which side of the fence they wish to be 
> and who has more integrity here.
> It is clear that Mr.Levy has issues that none of us will ever be 
> to resolve. 
> Let me be clear to all.....(and I believe that most people 
> this) When I say "safe" it means that the things said in this post 
> would never be said to my face if I was to see Mr. Levy at an 
> The twisting of this comment is yet another example of the problem 
> people face when posting about the DOA or other things Mr. Levy 
> objectionable.  I'd like to thank Mr. Levy for making my point for 
> that e-mail is not always the best method of expression for your 
> thoughts and opinions.  It will be taken the wrong way and then you 
> have to battle the reply post and on and on and on and on.......I'm 
> tired of it as I am sure most of you are.
> It is too bad that even good people like myself, who haven't done a 
> thing to anyone, is maligned in such a fashion just for standing up 
> and speaking out in support of Mr. Bakers efforts in trying to fix 
> the DOA. 
> I think we should all just ignore, ignore, ignore people with such 
> venom in thier hearts and choose to come from a place of hope and 
> good wishes for Mr. Baker as well as Dan from the DMA in trying to 
> counter negative and unproductive people.  
> Please offer these gentlemen your support if you have the 
> to do so. Again I am sorry to the membership at large for having to 
> suffer through this.
> Thank you to the people who have contacted me in private both in e-
> mail and "on the phone" for your input, differing views, thoughts 
> support for what you have been reading.   I will not engage in 
> further fruitless arguments.
> When I do see you Mr. Levy at an event you can be sure that I will 
> take the time to speak with you and speak my mind as gentlemen 
> should.  However knowing your unusual obsession with documenting 
> things if you would like to tape record or hire a shorthand writer 
> you can then have it transcribed and posted for all to see please 
> so :)
> Tom Watkins


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