Re: [DML] Treatment of Newbies (was: Leaving The Group)
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Re: [DML] Treatment of Newbies (was: Leaving The Group)


One way to find out how mean the group is, is to tell
them what kind of car you recently purchased (instead
of a Delorean)... hahahah!! lol, JUST KIDDING of


--- Louie <louie@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Having been in the DeLorean community for close to
> ten years now, 
> and having owned 2 DeLoreans, I can say I've pretty
> well seen it 
> all. Something that has never stopped angering me is
> the way 
> some "veteran" owners treat newcomers. Instead of
> snidely looking 
> down our nose at new people and their seemingly
> inane repetitious 
> questions, we should be happy! New owners means the
> marque is 
> surviving... new generations of people are
> discovering and buying 
> DeLoreans, the car won't become a forgotten relic of
> the past. We 
> should be welcoming these people with open arms and
> congratulating 
> them instead of being snippy and snide with them. If
> you just simply 
> can't be bothered to provide someone with a link to
> a typical 
> problem, then perhaps you shouldn't be on an
> internet discussion 
> forum! If this has all become old news, and newbies
> bother you, by 
> all means... don't drag the rest of the group down.
> There is enough 
> negativity surrounding the DeLorean without getting 
> additional "help" within the community! Treat others
> the way that 
> they want to be treated, it's very simple. We were
> all newbies at 
> one point with the same silly questions.
> There is no denying too that the online DeLorean
> community isn't as 
> up to date and user friendly as it could be either.
> I know I heard 
> the phrase "look it up in the archives" quite a few
> times in my 
> first years of the community, not knowing at all how
> to even locate 
> the archives, much less search in them lol. The
> community is just so 
> fragmented too, and seems to be getting worse daily.
> There are 
> groups who want nothing to do with one another in
> our tiny 
> community. This all just points to a more systematic
> than individual 
> problem... we need more continuity between the
> websites, vendors, 
> clubs, and resources; more easy point and click
> links for common 
> problems, and more FRIENDLINESS in general! 
> One of the biggest ironies around here is that so
> many of us 
> complain about the way Ed at D-1 treats new owners,
> but then we turn 
> around and treat new owners the same way ourselves!
> Just think back 
> how daunting it was when you bought your DeLorean
> and it had it's 
> first problem. You owned an extinct orphan car who a
> very select few 
> have knowledge about how to repair. You couldn't run
> to your local 
> Auto Zone for parts, and your local American car
> repair shop won't 
> touch your car.  So you come online only to get
> snippy responses 
> from jaded people... talk about adding insult to
> injury!! Regarding 
> the manuals... not everyone has them. I know I
> always did, but they 
> may as well have been written in Greek to me. I just
> can't read 
> about how to fix a car... I have to see it done, and
> have help. Lord 
> knows not all owners are mechanically inclined
> either... I know I 
> sure wasn't! I couldn't have kept my DeLoreans
> running without the 
> help and good will of people like Bill Robertson,
> Jeff Friday, and 
> so many others.
> I know this sounds like I'm picking on Jordin, and
> believe me I'm 
> not. He's a great asset to the community with his
> How To's. I just 
> challenge him to remember why he created them in the
> first place: 
> lack of easy point and click answers and continuity
> in the DeLorean 
> community. The issue of newbies asking the same
> questions shouldn't 
> be vented onto the individual... it points to a
> systematic problem. 
> So perhaps we should be looking instead how to
> streamline and 
> combine the DeLorean community instead of further
> divide it. Maybe 
> it's time to throw convention out the window again,
> and start with 
> some fresh ideas on how to tackle the age old
> questions of newbie 
> ownership. Just remember too, it takes more muscles
> to frown than 
> smile!!! :-)
> Louie Golden
> Sometimes DeLorean Owner

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