[DML] Re: A question about our vendors, with my DMA hat on.

["David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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Most of us can understand how businesses operate. We don't need
lessons from Claude. When you read his posts it helps to know some
history. He had a large inventory of used Delorean parts and several
cars in various stages of disassembly. He tried to peddle it off to
the vendors. He thought he had gold. He was disappointed when he could
not get what he thought it was worth. He eventually did sell it to one
of the vendors but no matter what he got he would have felt cheated.
Never mind that he misrepresented that buried in the pile was a lot of
NOS parts (there was almost NONE!). He seems to thrive on controversy
and will always take the contrary view. He no longer owns any
Deloreans (or parts, so he said) but he aways has an opinion! I answer
his posts because I have met him and was involved (to a small extent)
with the deal. He continues to rewrite history and makes statements
with no validity. He says he doesn't speak for the vendors and then
makes statements about them as if he has personal knowledge of their
business. I feel if his statements go unchallanged someone may
eventually start to believe his version of history. As for the
vendors, each has their own reasons and rationale for giving of their
time and parts. For instance in many cases they are very generous if
they make a mistake in their customer service. They will go above and
beyond to correct any mistakes and try to please the customer. I have
seen and heard of many instances where an order winds up costing them
by correcting a problem but they do it to keep their reputations (and
in some of these cases it turns out not to be their fault!) Again, the
cost of doing business. And not always a "tax write-off"
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757  



--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "outatime81" <outatime81@...> wrote:
>
> Folks,
> 
> I think it's all in how you read his post......I didn't take Claude's 
> comment of "not out of the goodness of their heart" as a slam.
> 
> While our vendors have an unbelievable record of donating their time, 
> talents and energy, it really is a part of being an entrepenuer.  You 
> do whatever you have to do to keep your business out there and making 
> money.  Rob and Steve are classic examples of the entrepenuerial 
> spirit.  I own a movie theater that is currently being rebuilt,  I 
> spend 60,70 80 hours or more a week devoted to it so it will be 
> successful.  Nobody is going to care more about my business than me.  
> When I donate things I am always looking to see if I can use it as a 
> tax write-off.  Sure, I love to be out there promoting my theater and 
> being a part of the community BUT... the tax man takes so much of 
> your money and with our F**ked up tax laws, investments into your 
> business you want to write off are sometimes stretched out over 30 
> years!!!....I fight with my accountant all the time over nonsense 
> like this.  30 years to write off a new screen?  30 years to write 
> off new Popcorn machine?  Come on!!!  It won't last that long! 
> 
> Smart men like Rob and Steve surely have even smarter people doing 
> their accounting and know that business trips, donations etc...are 
> ways to lower their profit...at least on paper.  It's all a sad game 
> American businesses need to play.
> 
> I think Claude was just trying to point that aspect out and not 
> trying to flame anyone.  I'm sure Claude has no doubt that our 
> vendors have a deep passion for our cars, care for their customers 
> and take away time from their families to indulge all of our 
> collective love for these cars.  But as much as they devoted to the 
> marquee, they are first and foremost...businessmen who will do what 
> they must to ensure their livelyhood and keep thier employees with 
> jobs, health insurance etc...
> 
> It's a heavy burden on a sole proprietor and I applaud anyone who 
> ventures into this insane world of owning a business.  We must all be 
> crazy! LOL!!
> 
> Just trying to flip the coin on this topic to see the other side
> 
> Peace!
> 
> Tom
>




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