[DML] Re: A question about our vendors, with my DMA hat on.

["cbl1739" <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

That was my point,there are a lot of Delorean owners(and non owners)
that give of their time(and items) for free,for instance ALL the 
DML'ers that write to this list to help owners with problems..that is 
doing it from the heart..there is no tax writeoff,no profit incentive 
etc,granted if not for the Vendors the Delorean would be a POS 
without a LOT of the improved parts that they have come out with,but 
again it was done as a business incentive and to improve on the sales 
to the business,but when someone mentions/makes Vendors sound like 
all they do(more or less) 24/7/365 is to make their time just for the 
good of the DMC community,I have to speak up,and set the record 
straight(for the people that do not relize the true nature of 
business)And mention that there is a incentive to "giving away" 
products and  or services.Granted they(the business owner/vendor) 
have a Love for the car,but when you have overhead to worry 
about,your main goal is to use whatever is nessessary to increase the 
bottom line for the business,and that includes spending "free time" 
with potental future customers,on the phone,internet,in person etc,in 
the hopes that it will generate and payoff with future sales/ 
services/long term customers and add to the bottom line profits... 

Claude


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "outatime81" <outatime81@...> wrote:
>
> Folks,
> 
> I think it's all in how you read his post......I didn't take 
Claude's 
> comment of "not out of the goodness of their heart" as a slam.
> 
> While our vendors have an unbelievable record of donating their 
time, 
> talents and energy, it really is a part of being an entrepenuer.  
You 
> do whatever you have to do to keep your business out there and 
making 
> money.  Rob and Steve are classic examples of the entrepenuerial 
> spirit.  I own a movie theater that is currently being rebuilt,  I 
> spend 60,70 80 hours or more a week devoted to it so it will be 
> successful.  Nobody is going to care more about my business than 
me.  
> When I donate things I am always looking to see if I can use it as 
a 
> tax write-off.  Sure, I love to be out there promoting my theater 
and 
> being a part of the community BUT... the tax man takes so much of 
> your money and with our F**ked up tax laws, investments into your 
> business you want to write off are sometimes stretched out over 30 
> years!!!....I fight with my accountant all the time over nonsense 
> like this.  30 years to write off a new screen?  30 years to write 
> off new Popcorn machine?  Come on!!!  It won't last that long! 
> 
> Smart men like Rob and Steve surely have even smarter people doing 
> their accounting and know that business trips, donations etc...are 
> ways to lower their profit...at least on paper.  It's all a sad 
game 
> American businesses need to play.
> 
> I think Claude was just trying to point that aspect out and not 
> trying to flame anyone.  I'm sure Claude has no doubt that our 
> vendors have a deep passion for our cars, care for their customers 
> and take away time from their families to indulge all of our 
> collective love for these cars.  But as much as they devoted to the 
> marquee, they are first and foremost...businessmen who will do what 
> they must to ensure their livelyhood and keep thier employees with 
> jobs, health insurance etc...
> 
> It's a heavy burden on a sole proprietor and I applaud anyone who 
> ventures into this insane world of owning a business.  We must all 
be 
> crazy! LOL!!
> 
> Just trying to flip the coin on this topic to see the other side
> 
> Peace!
> 
> Tom
>




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