Re: [DML] Fuel Pump Madness

[mike clemens <rmclemns@xxxxxxxxx>]

Todd,

Have you jumpered directly to the fuel pump with a
spare battery??  What you're describing sounds like
the fuel pump may be getting ready to crap out.  If
you disconnect the leads at the top of the pump and
then jumper the posts to a 12 volt source and your
problem remains the same, then you pump is the likely
problem. 

Mike



--- Todd Nelson <tan5732@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> List:
> 
> I think I've done all I can do with this one, so I'm
> going to open it up to you all.  After taking the
> car out of storage for the winter I noticed that
> when I turned the key to the ON position the fuel
> pump didn't do its regular 2-3 second prime then
> shut off.  Hmm I said and continued to flick the key
> from ACC to ON. Finally the pump did its deal and
> the car started fine.  I shrugged it off as some
> corroded contacts and went on my merry way, only to
> find that the problem was back when I tried to
> restart again.  The same "solution" of flicking the
> key seemed to work.  I have been told that it may be
> dirty contacts on the ignition switch, but I don't
> think this is it since the main relay for the ON
> position always works, and everything else that is
> supposed to come on when in the ON position (dash
> lights, engine electrical components, etc) all work
> fine.  I first suspected the RPM relay, so I opened
> it up, cleaned the contacts on the relay and the
> same problem continued.  After A LOT of testing I
> came to the conclusion that the RPM relay was dead,
> I've heard they are prone to failure and I had an
> original one, so it all added up.  $57 later at my
> local foreign parts shop and my troubles continue! 
> But at least I have a spare RPM relay now.  During
> my testing I noticed that if I quickly (really
> quickly) plug and unplug the #1 fuse a few times
> things will work, but if I slowly plug and unplug
> the fuse things will not.  Same goes for the key, if
> I quickly flick to the run position a few times the
> pump will run for those 2 seconds as it should. 
> I've studied the wiring diagram of the car until
> migraines set in and I can't seem to find anything
> else on this circuit to prevent the pump from
> pumping.  It's not the inertia switch, I've bypassed
> that.  I was also thinking possibly the "main fuel
> relay/LAMBDA relay" as it is on the circuit.  But
> even with that unplugged the symptoms are the same,
> the pump will still function (sometimes) with that
> relay removed, so that can't be it.  I've cleaned
> all the contacts on the fuses, pump connections,
> relay connections and ground points.  Once I get the
> pump going the car runs and drives fine.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> Thanks,
> Todd Nelson
> 1561, Vermont
> http://www.rit.edu/~tan5732
> 
> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 


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