[DML] Getting rid of trailing arm setup (was Stainless Frame Features)

["John Dore" <dmcjohn@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Brian,

I don't see anything inappropriate in discussing your stainless frame 
on the list, seeing as you opened this discussion by trying to 
discredit my opinion on galvanised frames versus the stainless steel 
frame!

However, seeing as your position appears to have changed from having 
us believe it would cost $90,000 to have a frame incorporating these 
features made, to you simply not being interested in spending a few 
hours adding this nice touch to your frames, I am happy to not 
discuss this further, on or off the list.

On a side note, did you (or anyone else on the list) ever consider 
redesigning the rear suspension completely, and eliminating the 
trailing arm setup altogether? I'm planning on making a 4 seater 
DeLorean next year (2 + 2 setup), with a small back seat suitable for 
children or adults who don't mind being a bit squashed. Similar size 
to the Porsche 911 back seat or Renault Alpine...

I'll be basing the car on the Renault Apline GTA rear suspension 
setup, and most probably using the back seats from an Alpine. I'll be 
removing the frame from the DeLorean, stripping it and repairing any 
rust, redesigning the rear of the frame to run the Alpine suspension 
(or some home made similar solution), galvanising this frame, and 
reinstalling it into the DeLorean body. Also, with the trailing arm 
not in the  way anymore, the fiberglass body can then be cut (in the 
parcel shelf area), and modified to fit a seat on each side of the 
center console. With the trailing arm out of the way, the center 
console will not need to "splay out" at such a sharp angle in the 
luggage shelf area. This will allow a smaller seat to be placed at 
each side of the console, behind the 2 front seats.

I'm just starting to research the Alpine at the moment, but it 
appears to have upper and lower A arms (and rear roll bar) instead of 
the upper and lower links and trailing arm setup of the DeLorean.

Obviously, the battery and electrics etc will need to be relocated.

I won't be doing it to my current DeLorean, so I will be starting to 
look for a suitable car to perform this on over the next 6 months. 
I'm basically looking for a car with rust on the frame, a really bad 
interior, even a few dents in the stainless, but a good underbody.

Sounds like a fun project eh!

Ideas, Suggestions, Comments all welcome (except people telling me it 
can't be done!). Bob Brandy's, I'd like to also put in your full size 
windows into this car, so please come up with a DIY kit!

Thanks,
John

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Bryan Pearce <bryanp@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> 
> I would gladly discuss further issues with you, but feel it would 
be  
> more appropriate to discuss them privately.
> 
> However, I would like to clarify for you and the list my $90,000  
> price quote.  Keep in mind that making replacement pieces of an  
> existing frame is different from building something completely 
new.   
> To build a new frame, you need to consider finance, design, 
tooling,  
> raw materials, assembly fixtures and process, facilities, and 
labor.   
> This all assumes that you are planning on building hundreds of 
frames  
> and not just one frame.
> 
> I don't feel any need to incorporate what you refer to as "design  
> features" into the Stainless Steel frame.  However, if you want to  
> see something really pretty, check out our frame tie downs and  
> redesigned trailing arms.  Better yet, look at them in 130,000 
miles  
> and see that they have not changed.
> 
> -- 
> ===============================================
> Bryan Pearce
> Pearce Design Components
> 2N629 Jefferson St.
> West Chicago, IL  60185
> Phone:   (630) 293-0945
> Fax:     (630) 293-0944
> 
> DeLorean Part Fabrication
> ===============================================
> 
> 
> On Jun 24, 2006, at 3:59 PM, John Dore wrote:
> 
> > I would be very interested in seeing a reply from you regarding 
the
> > projected cost of $90,000 for a frame incorporating the design
> > features I commented on being missing from your stainless steel
> > frames. I'm sure others would be interested in seeing a 
justification
> > for this price also, now that my website shows how easy it is to
> > incorporate these features.
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>









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