Re: [DML] Re: Stainless Frame Features
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Re: [DML] Re: Stainless Frame Features



I would like to publicly thank all those that have sent me private e- 
mail messages about the Stainless Steel frames.  Your support and  
encouragement are appreciated.

Tom, your evaluation of the welds on a PDC frame are based strictly  
on appearance.  This is one method of evaluating the weld.  The other  
is penetration of the weld for longevity and stability.  As with any  
new endeavor, the appearance of the welds has improved significantly  
since the beginning of this project.  All of the welds have always  
been quality welds.  We have talked to our share of "expert" welders  
of Stainless Steel and received praises for taking on the task of  
building a car chassis out of Stainless and putting it together so  
well.  The prototype Stainless Frame remains in use under my daily  
driver with over 130,000 on the frame and no problems.  I also know  
of other owners with Stainless frames without any problems.  You  
don't have to feel "scared" in a DeLorean with one of our frames.

As for the frames you have examined, I believe one of the frames  
belonged to Walter Coe in Florida.  This was an early frame.  You  
know Walter and you did resided in Florida for a time.  Many long  
time DMLers are familiar with Walter's issue with one of our frames.   
This issue was addressed several years ago with him privately.   
However Tom, since you have decided to make this posting to the  
group, I will tell everyone that I spoke with Walter at great length  
about the frame and offered a full refund.  The refund offer was  
never accepted.

I am not going to turn this into a welding lesson, but compare the  
welds on the inside of the front lower control arms to the majority  
of welds on the frame.  You will see that they look almost the same.   
You say the welds on the front lower control arms are a "thing of  
beauty" but the exterior surface welds on the arms are a different  
type of weld than the interior.  Additionally, the front lower arms  
are electro polished.  The size of the frame makes electro polishing  
costly.

If you wish to continue this conversation, please do so privately via  
e-mail or phone.
-- 
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Bryan Pearce
Pearce Design Components
2N629 Jefferson St.
West Chicago, IL  60185
Phone:   (630) 293-0945
Fax:     (630) 293-0944

DeLorean Part Fabrication
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On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:30 AM, Tom Niemczewski wrote:

> Hello all
>
> Since the topic of design features was brought up I have to ask  
> about the
> quality. Brian, did the quality of the welds improve recently? I had a
> chance to see one of your frames in Memphis in 2002 and then  
> another one
> bought from you some time after that show and I have to say that  
> the quality
> of the welds on those two frames was terrible to say the least. I'm  
> not
> trying to offend anyone but by looking at those two frames I was  
> under the
> impression that whoever did it had absolutely no experience in welding
> stainless steel. I personally would not feel safe driving a car  
> with such
> poorly welded frame. A professional welder said, after looking at  
> one of
> your frames, that the only way to fix it would be to just grind all  
> the
> welds off and start over...
> For the price I would expect a lot more...
> Your front lower control arms on the other hand are a thing of  
> beauty and
> the welds are top notch. Why isn't the frame even close to that?
> I even took some pictures of the welds on the frame that was in  
> Memphis, it
> was scary
> I hope you have this issue resolved now. A frame falling apart from  
> bad
> welds would be really bad... Let's just hope it never happens.
>
> Tom Niemczewski
> vin 6149 (in Poland!)
> Google earth: 52°25'17.30"N 21° 1'58.00"E
> tomciodmc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> www.deloreana.com
>



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