[DML] Swaps, Turbos, transmissions etc

[Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

For a DIY'er, A Turbo may be an easier bolt on..  But
for a DeLorean it is not that easy.

If we ignore the fact that these kits are no longer
sold new....  

The Island turbo kit last sold for $8000.  Then, you
have to install the thing.  I have no idea how much
mechanics were charging to install it, but it does
require that HOLES BE DRILLED in both the lower engine
block, and intake manifold.  You also need to re-curve
your distributor.

Most of the gain (I think) from the DMCH setup comes
from the free-flow exhaust.  Although I can't find the
kit on the new DMCH web site, IIRC the cost of that
setup was about 1/4 that of the turbo.  The work to
install exhaust is significantly less than the turbo. 
If you want to go for the whole "performance package",
it would still be less costly than the turbo.  I also
expect it will be more reliable.  Both setups are too
loud for my taste.


BTW, I came to the same conclusion as you.  "it'd
actually be cheaper to do an engine swap with a more
easily turbo'd engine than it would be to build and
turbo a PRV that could crank out much more than 210hp
or so".  Martin has the luxury of going to junkyards
and pulling bits from various high-performance PRV
setups.  On this side of the pond we don't have that
luxury.  If I were in Europe, I'd probably consider a
hi-po PRV rebuild.  Here, it is just not practical or
cost effective.

If you want 210 HP, you don't need forced induction. 
VQ35 puts out 260HP stock!  "tune" it, add a
supercharger and your at 400HP! (But then you are back
in the price range of a hi-po PRV).  What would be
nice is if someone machined a custom adapter for the
VQ35 to the stock DMC trans.  

I am finding that the Porsche 915 trans does not fit
well in the DeLorean frame, as others who have used it
claimed.  Looking at some photos of conversions using
the 915, I see the CV axles are at a significant
angle.  The 915 trans sits too far forward of the
wheels.  To place the 915 trans in the proper location
(based on the location of the rear wheels), the frame
of the car will need to be cut.  The decision to cut
the frame is where I am stalled right now on my
project.  :(

Maybe someone will come up with an adapter kit for the
DMC trans in the next week or so.  NOT!


--- Qumefox <qumefox@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Actually, you have that backwards. Generally turbo
> systems that are
> offered as kits are 'bolt on' for the most part.
> I've never had any
> experience with delorean kits though, (Heck. I'm not
> sure I could even
> DRIVE yet when the various kits were still
> available, as by then the
> cars were allready over ten years old) but even if
> you did need to pull
> the motor to install it, you still wouldn't have to
> dismantle and
> rebuild the motor. do extensive porting and
> polishing, install new cams,
> etc, that you would have to to improve NA
> performance.  With the turbo
> (when dealing with a kit that has all the parts
> supplied anyway) all
> you'd need to do would be remove the existing
> exhaust system, bolt on
> the turbo manifolds, plumb for oil and air, do the
> required distributer
> and enrichment mods, put it all back in and be on
> your way.  Now if your
> trying to design your own turbo setup, things become
> a bit more
> complicated, but not overly so if your goals are to
> apply the turbo to a
> stock engine.
> 
> --
> 
> Chris
> VIN# 03209
> http://badger.brazi.net/index.pl/delorean
> 
> (who has been following this thread with quite alot
> of interest, but has pretty much reached the
> conclusion that it'd actually be cheaper to do an
> engine swap with a more easily turbo'd engine than
> it would be to build and turbo a PRV that could
> crank out much more than 210hp or so.. )


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