Re: [DML] DMC nation of origin Was: DMC to be in

["alex morgan" <mauibarber@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I agree with you that it really doesn't make any difference if it is 
American or British or both.  I just think its an interesting debate.  In 
fact I think it would be safe to say that maybe it is a American/British 
hybrid.  This is a prime example of how great it would be if JZD frequented 
these boards.  I don't know if that question (is the DMC american or 
british) has ever been asked of him?

>From: Jon Heese <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>Subject: Re: [DML] DMC nation of origin  Was: DMC to be in a new PS2 game
>Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 19:27:48 -0500
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>In answer to your question about Daimler-Chrysler, that's a great case
>where the lines are blurred due only to the fact that Chrysler was an
>American company for so long.  When it merged with Daimler, I remember a
>lot of people asking that same question.  I think it comes down to the
>reason for classifying the national heritage of a car.  In our case,
>it's a matter of grouping video game cars together by a common thread.
>I would wager a guess that the overwhelming majority of people who care
>would consider any Chrysler product an American car in this setting,
>just because it's much more comfortable to do so and there's no real
>harm in the misclassification by technicality.  Obviously, if we were
>asking for tax or legal purposes, it would have to be considered more
>seriously.
>
>This next part is partially my opinion:
>
>The only case where I would consider the source of funding a factor in
>this matter is if the government in question financed 100% of the
>venture, making the car manufacturer not only based in the country, but
>making the government itself the effective manufacturer of the car.  In
>the case of DMC, there were many private financiers too, and there is no
>clearly obvious way to determine the car's nation of origin based on
>that (a geographic average of each financier's headquarters?)  I just
>think it's a grey area in the convention, and as such, might just as
>well be discounted as needless complications.
>
>If I understand the story correctly, the British government had no
>financial ownership of DMC at its inception.  By 1982, I think they
>controlled the company.  So, by your logic, does this mean that the
>early and late model DMC-12's have different nations of origins?  Again,
>we have to ask why we care, and what factors are important in the realm.
>
>I do agree that it really isn't an open and shut case, and I'd be
>interested to hear everyone's opinion as well.
>
>Regards,
>Jon Heese
>
>alex morgan wrote:
> >
> > So if I understand what your saying, then we would now consider Dodge 
>and
> > Chrysler to be European cars?  Because they are owned by Daimler 
>Chrysler,
> > they would be manufactured by a British company and as such be 
>considered
> > European cars?
> > Weren't there DMC offices in Europe as well?  I am also curious why you
> > discount the funding source. I thought something like 3/4 of the money 
>came
> > from the British governement.  And it wasn't the U.S. that shut down the
> > company, it was the brits.  Maybe I dont have my facts straight but I
> > thought for sure that the british goverment owned a clear majority of 
>the
> > Delorean motor company.  I know that towards the end of 1982 JZD tried 
>to
> > hand over all his remaining rights to the DMC and they (brit gov) 
>wouldnt
> > take it.  If its an American company why would he hand over the remaing
> > stock to the british goverment?  I believe if DMC was based in the US 
>but a
> > foreign entity owned the majority of the company it would not make it
> > american.  The question is WHO IS THE DELOREAN MOTOR COMPANY?
> >
> > ""DeLorean Motor Company (or at least some reflexive affiliate)
> >
> >>manufactured the car, and DMC was based in the US, so the car is an
> >>American car, by all standards.""
> >
> >
> > I would love to hear some more opinions about this.  I don't believe it 
>to
> > be an open and shut case.
>
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