Re: Quality of Dies- (Another strain of this virus)

["stitsien" <stitsien@xxxx>]

 Not to sound silly here but James Espey has made it pretty clear 
that were in no danger of body panels being hard to find any time 
soon. Not to rant or insult anyone its just over board to think that 
someone would fork over the kind of cash it would take to bring them 
up. It's sooooo much cheaper to build a whole new die set just ask 
anyone who has seen a temporary stamp set used for prototyping.... 
they start @ 20 -80k a piece "per part" and there only used maybe 
twenty times max. Now for a permanent set think in the over two 
million a piece range for something that can take 40k in cars a 
year "I am thinking in terms of the Audi A8 dies that are used to 
stamp aluminum here." So were talking 20 million if we go all out 
here right? That's allot cheaper than a massive salvage/restoration 
project? just look at the small piece of the titanic that was raised 
a year ago. I took over two years and ran well over two million I bet 
and it would be considered light compared to any die for a car. Then 
assuming that stuff was usable in any capacity other than sitting in 
some museum warehouse your looking as some major cash to restore 
them. At the end of the day there's just no need? Unless someone 
wants to make a 21-year-old car design again at 2002 prices doing 
lord knows what to the value of our cars. In short that's just let 
this whole thread die and rest in piece and think about someone 
making a nice electric fuel injection kit for our cars for under 
$2,000. :)

Matthew Stits
Vin 0789


--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "treehouse2000us" <treehouse2000us@xxxx> wrote:
> Have you forgotten about the quality of the dies in question?  
> DeLorean was planning to produce 40,000 cars a year. Unless the 
dies 
> were severly damaged in the water, I feel that they should be in 
> excelent shape with only minor restoration. Why would John risk 
> loosing his company over a cheaply created die set? Also, if you 
> think about it, the company spent millions in developement of 
almost 
> every system implimented in the car. Why would he skimp on one of 
> the most important peices of equipment to make his automobile.
> 
> As for every DML'er to jump off a boat and dive just to see these 
> dies, we need a sophisiticated plan which will alow for mistakes, 
> both human and equipment, to successfully recover the dies. If we 
do 
> this, we can make our DeLoreans last forever.
> 
> Tom Porter
> Vin #: (next year)