Re: [DML] Re: Roof leaking

[Christian Williams <delorean@xxxx>]

It doesn't appear that the headliner is "wicking" the water out of the
well. Bill from DMC and I installed the headliners a couple months ago and
the cloth is trimmed right where it should be (not folded over into the
well). Also, there's really too much water coming in to have simply been
wicked. I'll see if I can get the metal piece off of the top of the
windshield this weekend and look for openings. Thanks guys!

-Christian


On Fri, 27 Oct 2000, Robert Rooney wrote:

> Where exactly is the water leaking in from? Is the headliner itself 
> wet and water is dripping from from the fabric? Or is water dripping 
> from between the headliners directly from the door seal?
> 
> If the headliner is wet and water is comming from in front of the 
> visor where the windshield is then yes water is probably leaking in 
> from the glass. I've had this problem on other cars and the solution 
> was to shoot some silicone in between the wind shield (clear non-
> shrinking GE silicone II from home depot works very well for this job 
> and all sealing tasks in the service bulletin). You would have to 
> remove the black trim piece at the top of the windshield to gain 
> access, but I couldn't help you there on how to remove it. But on a 
> side note, on the cars I've had that have had this problem, the car 
> would get VERY noisy at higher speeds from the air rushing in.
> 
> If water is dripping from the headliner behind the visor and leads 
> up to the door seal, then the problem is that your headliners 
> are "wicking" water. If this is the case, check in the gutter between 
> the door seal and the windshield to see if any cloth is sticking out 
> from between the rubber seal and the fiberglass. If so you will need 
> to remove the rubber to trim the cloth back. Other wise the cloth 
> dips into the draining water and will suck the water up and channel 
> it thru the cloth to drip inside. Just like a lantern wick does.
> 
> If water is dripping down from between the headliners where the 
> door hits the rubber seal, one thing you can try would be to swap the 
> inner door seals with each other. That helps a little bit. But what I 
> ended up doing for my car after I switched seals was rather then push 
> the rubber all the way down, leave it attached only a little bit, 
> just enough to keep it in place. Then when you close the door, the 
> door will push the seal down as far as needs to seal. Manually 
> seating the seals by pushing them all the way down can create gaps.
> 
> Other then that, make sure that you refer to Service Bulletin ST-
> 33-12/81 on water leaks to cover all other areas. Make sure that 
> after driving in wet weather that you pull up your floor mats to make 
> sure your carpet is dry. If not you may need to seal additional items 
> on the underside and/or in your wheelwell(s). Also keep the gutters 
> clean of leaves and dirt.
> 
> -Robert
> vin 6585
> 
> 
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxx, Christian Williams <delorean@xxxx> wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > I haven't had my car long, and this past week was the first time I 
> had
> > ever driven it in rain. I discovered that when it's raining hard, 
> quite a
> > bit of water drips from the area near the passenger's sun visor. I 
> just
> > had the headliners replaced, so I certainly want to stop the leak 
> before
> > the foam rots out. 
> > 
> > As some of you guys might remember from the Chicago tech session, 
> the
> > passenger side of my car has been abused a bit. The tortion bar on 
> that
> > side is bent so badly that we couldn't get it to come out of the 
> car. The
> > T panel on the roof is bent up a bit on the passenger's side, and 
> there's
> > a crack that runs from the top to the bottom of the windshield. It 
> looks
> > like someone who didn't know what they were doing tried to adjust 
> the
> > door. 
> > 
> > Since the windshield is cracked, a new windshield is on my list of 
> things
> > to get. Do you think that some of the sealent that's used to hold 
> the
> > windshiled in might be cracked, allowing water to rush up the 
> windshiled,
> > underneath the black metal trim, and into the headliner? I'm 
> thinking that
> > this might be the case, and once the new windshield is fitted, that 
> will
> > solve the rain problem.
> > 
> > Also, passenger side seal E in this picture:
> > https://ssl.internetcreations.com/grady/images/sm_door1.gif
> > has quite a few holes in it. Or to put it better, it's almost as 
> good as
> > missing. The rest of the seals on the passengers side seem to be 
> fine, so
> > I'd assume that any rain that gets in through there would just be 
> routed
> > around and down to come out at the bottom of the door. Is this 
> right, or
> > might that water be able to get into the headliner near the sun 
> visor? The
> > water really seems to pour when I'm braking.
> > 
> > By the way, I never moved any further on installing the DVD 
> player/GPS
> > unit. If I'm sure that someone soon will make an all in one unit 
> that will
> > fit in the DeLorean's single stereo bay.
> > 
> > -Christian
> 
> 
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