dmcnews-digest Thursday, December 3 1998 Volume 03 : Number 448
In this issue:
DML: Battery for key?
DML: Speaking of Lambda connection...
Re: DML: Fuel Tank Pressure (was gas fume smell)
DML: 15 mph collision
DML: Northern Cali D 4 Sale
Re: DML:Fluids
DML: Harada Antenna
DML: Back pressure
DML: DRIVERS WINDOW INOP
DML: Re: Speaking of Lambda connection...
Re: DML: Battery for key?
DML: Fuel Odors
DML: cover
Re: DML: Harada Antenna
DML: Re: 15 mph collision
Re: DML: Re: Speaking of Lambda connection...
Re: DML: Battery for key?
DML: Exhaust Modifications
DML: specs
Re: DML: Back pressure
Re: DML: DRIVERS WINDOW INOP
DML: "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, DeLorean World"
DML: Re: cover
DML: Re: DRIVERS WINDOW INOP
DML: Re: Re: Speaking of Lambda connection...
DML: Ohio Emissions & Collector License Plates
DML: Re: K&N Filter part number (was: Exhaust Modifications)
DML: Fuel Sending Unit
DML: Holiday Cards to JZD
DML: delorean die cast
Re: DML: Fuel Tank Pressure (was gas fume smell)
DML: SPOILER?
DML: RE: won't start
DML: Door Skins
Re: DML: cover
Re: DML: Back pressure
DML: re: Fuel Filter Replacement
DML: Just got my Hemmings Motor News
Re: DML: Holiday Cards to JZD
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 19:54:28 PST
From: "Adam Michael" <amichael10@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Battery for key?
Does anyone know where we could get a battery for the door key with the
light? We've been searching around town and can't quite find the right
size battery. Please tell me this isn't another $30 item that I have to
buy from DeLorean One!
Adam Michael, VIN#1428
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Date: Tue, 1 Dec 1998 23:27:23 -0500
From: Chris Coplen <Blarness@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Speaking of Lambda connection...
When I had the brakes done on my D the shop noted to me that my Lambda =
connection in the rear wheel well was not connected. They asked me if I =
wanted it hooked back up. They told me the car should run much better =
(not that it was running poorly to begin with, but..) so I agreed.
It had absolutely NO change on the performance, idle, startup, mileage, =
or anything. What gives? Is there something wrong with my car? It =
doesn't run any differently than when I bought it two years ago. Does =
this mean it may be running substandard and I've never known it? I've =
always thought the car was a little under-powered but I never thought it =
ran poorly.
- -Chris
#3876
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:03:29 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Tank Pressure (was gas fume smell)
Jimmy,
Did you remove the fuel pump cover seal and look at the top of the fuel
pump for signs of fuel in that area. This area should be bone dry.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 00:03:34 -0600
From: "Daniel McGauley" <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: 15 mph collision
I thought everyone might want to see how a DeLorean handled a 15mph
front-end collision that occurred today.
http://www.creativeworlds.com/facia.jpg
I was quite impressed with how well it held up, but still ticked off that
my
facia is messed up.
- -Daniel McGauley
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 01:14:28 EST
From: Esyme@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Northern Cali D 4 Sale
In case anyone is up here in Northern California and looking for a car to
buy
I recently saw a 1981 manual, black interior, $12,800 obo on a car lot
(Scotland Yard) up here in San Rafael. I don't know any other specifics,
but
if you need a phone number of the lot or any other information you can
always
drop me a line.
Lorraine
esyme@xxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:55:40 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML:Fluids
Joe,
Fluid leaks are a result of age and not mileage. Even though an engine may
have low mileage the seals dry out and shrink over the years. As you
mentioned the red fluid is probably trans fluid and the black is oil. If
the leaking is not excessive there should be no real concern. See if you
can determine the source of the leaks and have them corrected when you
can.
If you need more specific information on this subject you can email me
directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 23:12:25 -0800
From: "Sean R. Manning" <mannings@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Harada Antenna
It has been posted several times that the Harada RX20 was the power
antenna
used when they moved it to the rear quarter panel. However, I don't
recall
ever seeing anyone post that they were able to buy one from somewhere
other
than DMC Houston. I've done some checking around but I haven't been able
to determine if its even still made or not. If anyone was able to find
one
from a "regular" car place or stereo shop, please post. Thanks a bunch.
:)
Sean Manning
VIN#1932
BAKNTYM
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 23:10:30 -0800
From: Eric Altendorf <altevan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Back pressure
I honestly don't understand the physics of it, so if someone can explain,
I'd appreciate it, but I've always been told that car engines do need a
certain amount of exhaust back pressure to generate low-end torque.
My friend lost all his street accelleration when he put a totally trick
exhaust system on his Fairlane; he had to put some of the stock components
back on to increase backpressure and get his torque back and keep the car
streetable.
Browse through a hot rod catalog and look at some of the really hi-flow
exhaust systems. Often they include a warning like "not for street use",
or, more illuminatingly, as I saw in one catalog, "Don't use this header
unless you can afford to lose your low end torque".
So I guess for performance some smoothing out of the stock exhaust is in
order, but if you go too far, you're going to need to run your engine at
6000+ RPM all the time to get decent performance. :)
- -e.
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 02:29:16 -0700
From: mike atkinson <mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: DRIVERS WINDOW INOP
Hi all,
I know this is an old subject, however the archives offered so many
possibilities I just had to ask. Tonight my oldest boy and I went for a
quick ride in the "BTW, thanks to all for the help in getting the
starting problem resolved" D and I rolled down the drivers window. When
we got home it wouldn't come back up. Nothing, no noise, no anything.
I traded the switch's out and it still wouldn't move. One of the things
the archives seemed to hit on is the wire bundle in the t-top. Doe's
that sound like a good place to start.
Mike Atkinson
VIN 16232
mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 00:51:24 -0800
From: "Dave Price" <davep2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Speaking of Lambda connection...
>When I had the brakes done on my D the shop noted to me that my Lambda =
>connection in the rear wheel well was not connected. They asked me if I =
>wanted it hooked back up. They told me the car should run much better =
>(not that it was running poorly to begin with, but..) so I agreed.
>
>It had absolutely NO change on the performance, idle, startup, mileage, =
>or anything. What gives? Is there something wrong with my car? It =
>doesn't run any differently than when I bought it two years ago. Does =
>this mean it may be running substandard and I've never known it? I've =
>always thought the car was a little under-powered but I never thought it =
>ran poorly.
>
Chris,
It's possible that your lambda system has been bypassed, and adjusted
manually. I'm not sure about the specifics of the modification, but I
know
it includes bypassing the O2 sensor (behind the wheel), and adjusting a
bolt on the engine with a long allen key.
Does anyone have better info on this procedure?
- - Dave
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Date: Tue, 01 Dec 1998 22:46:51 -0800
From: "Sean R. Manning" <mannings@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Battery for key?
Adam-->
I use the DURACELL PX625A. Its a photo/electronic battery and I found it
in the electronics/camera part of a local drug store. They were about
$4.75 there but I was then able to find them in the electronics/tv section
of a variety store (Fred Meyers) for about $2.50. They're an exect fit
but
it seems that the design of the key is not that great. If the battery
gets
situated a certain way in the key, it gets shorted (I suspect) and will be
dead within a day. So you might want to spend a little time making sure
that all the copper pieces and the spring are where they should be before
you drop the battery in. I'm considering tack soldering the spring to the
bottom copper plate so that it won't move when the button spins from my
thumb pressing it. Maybe then it will turn the light on consistantly.
At 07:54 PM 12/1/98 -0800, you wrote:
>Does anyone know where we could get a battery for the door key with the
>light? We've been searching around town and can't quite find the right
>size battery. Please tell me this isn't another $30 item that I have to
>buy from DeLorean One!
>
> Adam Michael, VIN#1428
>The DeLorean Corner: http://members.tripod.com/~DeLoreanDMC/index.html
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 05:03:06 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Fuel Odors
The question of fuel odors seems to come up quit frequently. This is
what I
have observed with my car.
When filling the car, if I top off the tank, put as much gas in it as I
can,
I smell fuel.
If I fill the car on the slow setting, and do not put any more in it when
it
first shuts off, I have minimal odors.
If the fuel pump boot is not seated properly, you will get odors. What I
do
now is mount the fuel pump in the tank, tighten the large hose clamp very
tightly, I use a 1/4" ratchet to tighten. I do not put the wires under
the
hose clamp. There are grooves in the pump boot for the wires, I do not
use
them. The boot will not tighten down enough with the wires between the
clamp and the boot, plus the clamp damages the wires. I then fold the top
rubber/vinyl cover over the boot and clamp. The cover seems to lay there
just fine.
I have also noticed that the fuel pump itself corrodes, so I used a wire
wheel to clean the fuel pump, and I cleaned the pump boot. Tighten the
clamp around the pump very tightly. Fuel will seep up between the fuel
pump
and boot when the tank is full. Lots of odors from this source. If the
boot feels sticky or you can pick pieces of the rubber off of it, you
need
to replace it, the "Modern Fuels are attacking the material. While you
are
at it, check your hoses in the tank. The old material seems to have a
much
shorter life because of the modern fuels. I have experienced this in
California before we transferred to Alabama, I replaced the internal hoses
in my tank twice in two years while living there, also had to replace all
the fuel lines in my motor home. This happened when the refineries were
mandated by the feds to put MTBE in the gasoline. I suspect, that it
won't
be to long before all of us experience this problem throughout the U.S.
I also put ignition tune up (dielectric grease) on the electrical
connectors
at the fuel pump and the plug to prevent corrosion.
Scott Mueller
DMC/ Das Mueller Companies
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 10:22:46 EST
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: cover
Hi All,
Can anyone out there tell me about the spare tire cover? My car doesn't
have
one, and news that they exist is something of a revelation to me.
Thanks, Joe
vin#1273
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 98 10:29:46 -0000
From: James Espey <espey@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Harada Antenna
On 12/2/98 7:11 AM, Sean R. Manning shared these fine thoughts...
>It has been posted several times that the Harada RX20 was the power
>antenna
>used when they moved it to the rear quarter panel. However, I don't
>recall
>ever seeing anyone post that they were able to buy one from somewhere
>other
>than DMC Houston. I've done some checking around but I haven't been able
>to determine if its even still made or not. If anyone was able to find
>one
>from a "regular" car place or stereo shop, please post. Thanks a bunch.
It's been a year or two since I got mine, but I was able to order it
directly through my Pep Boys part store here in town. I also had the
option of ordering it direct from Harada.
James Espey
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 11:39:44 -0700
From: scottmueller@xxxxxxxxx (Scott Mueller)
Subject: DML: Re: 15 mph collision
Was there any internal damage, chassis, crumple tubes, ect...
Scott Mueller
DMC/ Das Mueller Companies
Mobile, AL
1981/002981 DOA-5031 DMCNEWS
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- -----Original Message-----
From: Daniel McGauley <hawkeye@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wednesday, December 02, 1998 9:21 AM
Subject: DML: 15 mph collision
>I thought everyone might want to see how a DeLorean handled a 15mph
>front-end collision that occurred today.
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 11:45:53 -0600
From: Jordan Gary <jordang@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Re: Speaking of Lambda connection...
I have tried to get along without the O2 sensor. When I bought my car
the O2
sensor was bad and I did not know it. The car would not accelerate under
full
throtle. It also had little power above 70 MPH. I adjusted the fuel
mixture
many times and had expert mechanics also try. I had the same results with
the
O2 sensor plugged in or not. It never ran right. Finally I hooked up a
dwell
meter to the O2 sensor system and followed the test procedures. It
showed that
I had a bad sensor. I bought a new one for around $50 and my troubles
were
finally fixed. So the moral is, your car badly needs a working O2 sensor
and
Lambda system.
Dave Price wrote:
> >When I had the brakes done on my D the shop noted to me that my Lambda =
> >connection in the rear wheel well was not connected. They asked me if I =
> >wanted it hooked back up. They told me the car should run much better =
> >(not that it was running poorly to begin with, but..) so I agreed.
> >
> >It had absolutely NO change on the performance, idle, startup, mileage, =
> >or anything. What gives? Is there something wrong with my car? It =
> >doesn't run any differently than when I bought it two years ago. Does =
> >this mean it may be running substandard and I've never known it? I've =
> >always thought the car was a little under-powered but I never thought it =
> >ran poorly.
> >
>
> Chris,
>
> It's possible that your lambda system has been bypassed, and adjusted
> manually. I'm not sure about the specifics of the modification, but I
> know
> it includes bypassing the O2 sensor (behind the wheel), and adjusting a
> bolt on the engine with a long allen key.
>
> Does anyone have better info on this procedure?
>
> - Dave
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 12:50:17 EST
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Battery for key?
Sean,
Anyway that you can show us how the spring and other copper parts fit
together? I've fiddled with mine, and while it seems obvious, I can't
make
the #@$% light work. Maybe it's too easy for me to figure out? I've even
replaced the lightbulb with no results. It's such a nice touch, I'd
really
like to get it up and running. Thanks, Joe
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 15:35 +0000
From: "Martin Gutkowski" <mgutkowski@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Exhaust Modifications
Right, this was a thread a long time ago that I will now resurrect due to
now having all the information.
Simon Lees-Milne of the DeLorean Owners Club UK had his car modified for
greater performance, conforming to "what would have been" the Euro-spec
DeLorean. We discussed what he'd had done before, but I was not in
posession of all the facts at the time, and hope to redress the balance
now.
The reason I have this information is that I am now officially the club
internet correspondant, and Simon asked if I'd forward any interesting
information available on the internet. Well, I looked through my trash
folder and recovered the dmcnews digests back to no. 339, sent them to
Simon, and he rang me to let me know of the detail on his car, which I
posted information about a while back, but did not tell the whole story.
Simon's car (an auto) officially produces 167bhp @ 5600rpm in the rear
wheels. This is with the following modifications:
1) Fitting of a free flowing exhaust comprising 3 seperate manifolds on
each side and combined into one 2" pipe, in turn pushing through a
transverse free-flowing muffler (that only just comes within UK noise
specs!).
2) No Catalytic converter or Lambda sensor
3) No air flow damper box
4) Adjustment of the fuel flow through the injector regulator, speeding
it up such that he now gets an 85% through flow (15% returned to tank) as
opposed to the 60% stock.
There are now about 12 "British" D's with this conversion, and all easily
red-line.
Simon would be happy to take questions on this conversion which is done
by a firm in Nuneaton. He can be contacted by phone or fax on +44 1866
853294
If anyone does contact him, can you tell him the part number of the K&N
filter which can be used in a D, he's really interested!...
Cheers,
Martin
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 10:09:47 PST
From: "Nickolan McGaan" <njmcgaa@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: specs
Hi, I am new to the DML, my name is Nick. Iam hoping to buy a
Delorean next summer, my friend and I would like some
spechs(especially wheel size, and tire size).My e-mail address is
njmcgaa@hotmail.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 13:20:09 EST
From: DMC5524@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: DML: Back pressure
On most performance engines a small amount of exhaust back pressure is
required to keep the exhaust valves from slamming closed. This prevents
premature wear and damage between the valve and the head. Again this
theory
applies to race engines and usually is only a concern when the engine is
used
to slow the vehicle down instead of the brakes.
MDC
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Date: Sat, 8 Jan 2135 19:50:36 -0700
From: Brock Williams <brock@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: DRIVERS WINDOW INOP
I had the same problem, and for me it was the quick disconnect of the
power
wire onto the window motor that had come off. What happened was that the
tube
the window cable runs through had come off, so the power wire got hooked
on the
window cable, and when I put the window down, it disconnected the wire.
Brock
Vin #2680
On
Wed, 02 Dec 1998, you wrote: >Hi all, >
>I know this is an old subject, however the archives offered so many
>possibilities I just had to ask. Tonight my oldest boy and I went for a
>quick ride in the "BTW, thanks to all for the help in getting the
>starting problem resolved" D and I rolled down the drivers window. When
>we got home it wouldn't come back up. Nothing, no noise, no anything.
>
>I traded the switch's out and it still wouldn't move. One of the things
>the archives seemed to hit on is the wire bundle in the t-top. Doe's
>that sound like a good place to start.
>
>Mike Atkinson
>
>VIN 16232
>
>mikeatk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 09:55:13 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad, DeLorean World"
In musing over the distribution of JZD's model kit, Lee said:
> 6. I could bury it some where and sell treasure maps with clues
> to Delorean owners only.
If this is a democracy then I vote for #6. It would add another very
unusual chapter to the already amazing annals of the DeLorean. It takes
a special car to claim a world wide treasure hunt in its history. Play
it up
big enough and this treasure hunt could be mentioned by CNN, Life
Magazine, My Classic Car, and The National Enquirer.
I'm picturing the movie "It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World" and I can't stop
laughing.
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 01:40:35 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: cover
Joe,
All DeLoreans that left the factory had a black carpet (101917) that
covered the luggage compartment floor. A fiberboard backing was attached
to
all of the 81 model year cars but disappeared in the 82 & 83 cars. During
the early years dealerships and the QAC's swapped some of these around
from
car to car therefore some DeLoreans have the fiberboard backing and some
don't.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 01:52:00 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: DRIVERS WINDOW INOP
Mike,
NO! It is very unlikely that your window problem has anything to do with
wiring harness. Your best bet is to remove the lower door panel and test
the wires going to the motor with a 12V test light. If you have voltage
your motor is N.G. and you'll need to replace the regulator unit.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:05:55 -0500
From: "DMC Joe" <DMCJOE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Re: Re: Speaking of Lambda connection...
Chris,
The problem your describing is very common to the Lambda System, the fact
that you see no change in performance and that you have poor acceleration
tells me that your fuel enrichment circuit is not working. To test this do
the following: Attach a 12V test light between ground and the pair of
yellow/red wires coming from the RPM relay, start the engine, if the light
does not illuminate you'll need to replace the RPM relay. If it does light
do the same test between ground and the red/purple wire on the frequency
valve, if the light does not illuminate you'll need to replace the Lambda
relay. If you need more information you can email me directly.
DMC Joe / DeLorean Services dmcjoe@xxxxxxx
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 08:53:44 -0500
From: Mike Substelny <SUBSTEM@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Ohio Emissions & Collector License Plates
Bruce Benson said:
> I don't know how other states handle their licencing but in Minnesota
> if the car is at least 20 years old, or is the product of a completely
> defunct manufacturer like DeLorean, it is eligible for collector plate.
> They are a one time purchase and the car is then exempt from
> emission tests. The law is restrictive about when the car can be
> driven but is enforced very loosely.
Yes, the DeLorean does qualify for collector plates in Ohio. They would
save me time, money, and trouble. Even though I do drive my DeLorean
almost every day (except in winter) I split my driving between five cars,
so its annual mileage is within the limit of collector plates.
I am reluctant to get collector plates for three reasons:
1) I would have to give up my vanity plates.
2) The DeLorean was designed as a low emissions car, and
I actually LIKE having the government acknowledge that my
DeLorean is still functioning as intended.
3) I tell people that my DeLorean is a 'daily driver' and
collector plates would detract from that mystique.
I suppose the prudent thing would be to bite the bullet and switch to
collector plates anyway. That would make fellow Ohio DMLer Ken
Koncelik happy; Ken has wanted my vanity plates for years. :-)
- - Mike Substelny
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 14:34:08 EST
From: JSteuben@xxxxxxx
Subject: DML: Re: K&N Filter part number (was: Exhaust Modifications)
Hi Martin,
Thanks for the info. The K&N filter number is 33-2002. You install it
upside
down from the stock one. It works great. Regards, Joe
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 12:59:32 -0800
From: Richard Lew <2evm@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Fuel Sending Unit
To all:
My fuel sender unit went out and checked out a replacement would cost me
about $300 fron PJ Grady. Has anyone found a suitable replacement for
this very expensive part or is going to after market meters the best
way. I checked out some performance stores that sell fuel gauges and
sending units for about $80 complete. I would have to junk the old
gauge and drill a hole for the new one. Would appreciate any advise.
Thanks
Richard Lew
Danville, California
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 15:10:13 -0700
From: "Ace Underhill" <aceu@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Holiday Cards to JZD
I think it would be nice if we all sent Holiday cards to John =
Delorean. The "Santa with DMC" cards that James Espey sells are =
fantastic, so you all should purchase a set and send one. Can someone =
post JZD's address again for convenience? Also, don't forget to drop a =
few emails this season, thanking those individuals on the list that =
offer us all the great advice and repair tips so unselfishly. They =
often spend their own valuable time patiently helping people with their =
problems and they do this for free even though they are in the business =
to get paid for it.
-Ace Underhill-
Vin: 2860
AZ Lic: 8T8 MPH
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 14:27:38 PST
From: "Erik Geerdink" <delorean502@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: delorean die cast
i would just like to thank the person who told us about the JOHNNY
LIGHTNING BTTF delorean car. as of today no place in holland michigan
carries them, due to me. I went out and bought them all...all two of
them. anyways, thank you very much. it will look great next to the
model that Lee is making for all 100 of us lucky people.
Erik
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 10:27:48 -0800
From: "lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <lseiler@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Fuel Tank Pressure (was gas fume smell)
At 04:55 PM 12/1/98 EST, you wrote:
Snip........
>I do get the gas smell everytime I put gas inn the tank, even if I do not
>fill
>it. How can you tell if the leakage is at the junction of the tank and
>the
>filler pipe? I checked underneath the spare by removing the plastic, but
>I
>did not see anything.
>
>Thanks
>JimmyC
reply:
Hi Jimmy,
I had the same problem when I first got my D. I fond out two things, one
which has been mentioned over and over, don't over fill. The other was
that
the "Vent hose part - 101563" and "VLV roll-hose part - 101648" lines
needed to be replaced. they looked fine but had many very small cracks
around the ends where the hose clamp is. Once I removed and cleaned the
fill hose and replaced the other two hoses, along with the "filler gasket
part - 101567" the smell vanished. I also replaced all the hose clamps
with stainless.
It's worth mentioning that even if you spill one drop of fuel any where
under the hood you will smell it. I use paper towels to clean up any
spillage, and leave the towels with the gas station owner to deal with.
Good Luck
Lee
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 16:28:57 -0800
From: Alex Krochmal <alexk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: SPOILER?
Does anyone know where or how I could get a stainless steel spoiler like
the one on a Ferrari F-40? For an example of a DeLorean with this is at
http://members.xoom.com/Gullwings/delorean.html ?
Thanks,
Alex
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 17:48:15 +0000
From: "darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx" <darryl@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: RE: won't start
Michael Pack said "The car went through a $14,000 service in August of
this
year." Michael, if I had just spent that much that recently on work
including "new fuel system" I think I'd be having a chat with the person
who
did the work instead of asking this list for advice. I could have sold
you
a whole car for that price, but it doesn't run either.....
Darryl Tinnerstet
Specialty Automotive
4 LaBelle Lane
McCleary, WA 98557
PH: 360-495-4640
FAX: 360-495-4680
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 22:09:37 PST
From: "Claude L" <delorean81@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Door Skins
Does anyone know,if anybody makes replacement fiberglass door
skins,for creased delorean doors,they will be used on a painted
Delorean.
Bruno
Vin#16686
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Date: Wed, 02 Dec 1998 19:56:48 -0800
From: Hank Breer <hbreer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: cover
> Can anyone out there tell me about the spare tire cover?
Joe,
Very early cars were shipped with only the carpet covering the spare tire.
(Reference 8.7.2, fig 10) Later cars had a fiberboard piece placed between
the spare and the carpet. My car, VIN 1141, also does not have the
fiberboard cover, but most of the cars I judged at Concours did.
Neither the parts manual nor DMC Houston's parts catalogue mention it.
Hank
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Date: Thu, 03 Dec 1998 00:03:02 -0500
From: Paul Gress <pgress@xxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Back pressure
The way I remember it is the valve timing is optomized for the specific
amount
of back pressure. That means is you change your exaust system for less
back
pressure, you have to modify your camshaft timing (may be done by
offsetting
it rotation) usally by purchasing a new camshaft that is tuned for less
back
pressure. Now for the headers, the larger the diameter of the tube, the
less
low end you will have, and greater high end will result. This is caused
by
the pulses of exaust, when the exaust is exiting past the valves and the
valve
suddenly closes, the exaust is still in motion and creates a vacuum
behind it
which will stop the exaust flow, as soon as the exaust stops it will
bounce
backward in direction and ram into the exaust valve. If the exaust valve
opens at this time you will have a great loss of power. The time it
takes for
this bouncing of exaust is determined by the diameter of the exaust tube
(headers). The larger the diameter, the sooner this will occur. The
idea of
tuning the exaust system is to time this bouncing of exaust gasses so that
when the valve closes, the exaused bounces backwards, then bounces off the
exaust valve in the proper exaust direction, this is when you want the
exaust
valve to open again and help suck out more exaust gasses more efficiently.
This should be timed to occur at maximum torque RPM.
Hope this helps a little.
Paul Gress,
vin # 10193
Eric Altendorf wrote:
> I honestly don't understand the physics of it, so if someone can explain,
> I'd appreciate it, but I've always been told that car engines do need a
> certain amount of exhaust back pressure to generate low-end torque.
>
> My friend lost all his street accelleration when he put a totally trick
> exhaust system on his Fairlane; he had to put some of the stock components
> back on to increase backpressure and get his torque back and keep the car
> streetable.
>
> Browse through a hot rod catalog and look at some of the really hi-flow
> exhaust systems. Often they include a warning like "not for street use",
> or, more illuminatingly, as I saw in one catalog, "Don't use this header
> unless you can afford to lose your low end torque".
>
> So I guess for performance some smoothing out of the stock exhaust is in
> order, but if you go too far, you're going to need to run your engine at
> 6000+ RPM all the time to get decent performance. :)
>
> -e.
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 98 20:04:29 -0600
From: David Swingle <dswingle@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: re: Fuel Filter Replacement
The "Senator" wrote:
>Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 17:27:19 -0500
>From: Michael Pack <mpack1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> replaced my fuel filter with a Purolater cross reference
>After I installed it I ran the car to check for leaks and then finished
>up. When I tried to restart the car about 1/2 hour later, it would not
>start. Any Ideas= to fix?
. . .
>Thanks
>Michael Pack
I ran into a similar problem that I have never seen posted here. Maybe
the same problem, maybe not. . . .
I replaced my filter with the proper Bosch filter from a recognized
supplier. Immediately afterwards, the car would not start. After a little
investigation, I realized that the inlet (maybe the outlet - it has been
over a year) fitting was bottoming out into the line connection and
choking off the fuel. Apparently the spec on the depth of the filter
fitting has changed slightly over the years.
To fix it I cut a four grooves with a hacksaw across the face of the
fitting on the filter (watch for metal filings). Problem solved. Has
anyone else run into this?
Dave Swingle
81 VIN 5429
DOA, DMC, DMC(Midwest)
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Date: Wed, 2 Dec 1998 23:35:47 -0500
From: "." <jdl@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: DML: Just got my Hemmings Motor News
Just got the December issue of Hemmings Motor News, for those of you =
unfamiliar, a very extensive listing of just about any sort of collector =
car out there. I have been looking at the DeLorean section for some =
time, and think it is fairly representative of the prices for D's =
(because I was in the market for one, and did purchase one this summer). =
Is it just my imagination, or have the price of D's dropped. As an =
owner, I want to believe otherwise, but the average list price seems to =
be down from even six months ago, from maybe 16-18K to 14-16K with some =
listed as low as 6-13K (and almost none listed in even the mid 20's). =
Is this a seasonal thing? I as much as any of the owners of this very =
interesting car want the price to go up, but the listings I see make me =
wonder if we have gotten to the point where our cars will being to =
appreciate.
David Levey
Cleveland
PS- One of the cars listed for sale (with no price) was one of the =
pre-production cars (the second off of the assembly line) FYI
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Date: Thu, 3 Dec 1998 02:10:07 -0500 (EST)
From: William T Wilson <fluffy@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DML: Holiday Cards to JZD
On Wed, 2 Dec 1998, Ace Underhill wrote:
> I think it would be nice if we all sent Holiday cards to John =
> Delorean. The "Santa with DMC" cards that James Espey sells are =
> fantastic, so you all should purchase a set and send one. Can someone =
I hate to disagree on something like this for risk of sounding like a
scrooge, but I'm not sure that JZD would actually want something like
this. I mean, I'm sure he'd love to get cards from list members. But I
don't know if he really wants a deluge of things reminding him about DMC.
He didn't come out of it nearly as well as we did, after all. I mean, if
I ran a business that cost me my credibility and my fortune of millions of
dollars, I'd be pretty bitter about it. Wouldn't you?
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