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1. Insurance...
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
2. RE: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxx>
3. Re: Auto tranny gov & shift solenoids
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>
4. leak on top of fuel pump (was: ...senator)
From: deloreanernst@xxxxxxx
5. Re: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
From: Christian Williams <delorean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
6. Re: It happened one night. . .
From: jwit6@xxxxxx
7. Re: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
From: jwit6@xxxxxx
8. Re: Auto tranny gov & shift solenoids
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
9. BTTF VideoCamera
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
10. [humor] let's see the engine
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
11. Re: Insurance...
From: id <ionicdesign@xxxxxxxxxx>
12. Mark Hershey's governor fixes....
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
13. Re: DeLorean Accountants AA
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>
14. Re: DeLorean Accountants AA
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 08:55:09 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Insurance...
I am 21 years old with two speeding tickets under my belt and I am paying
$900.00 a year for full coverage on my Delorean. Is that good?
Also I took the largest deductable that the company offered ($1000 dollar
deductable). However they havent given me an actual set amount, for how much
my car is ensured to... is this normal, or do they usually give you a dollar
amount? How is this value determined? If the car is destroyed, I want to
know how much I get! Eff.
Adam 16683
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 11:22:59 -0600
From: "Scott Mueller" <scott.a.mueller@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
Aaron,
The cost of shipping your car to one of the DeLorean vendors for repair
probably is not very much. Get an estimated shipping cost and take it to
the adjustor when they are estimating the repair. Also, give the adjustor
DMC Houstons Web site for parts.
The inertia switch might have tripped and that could be the reason the
engine will not start.
What do you need a lawyer for, are you going to sue the Deer? ;>)
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From: aaron_t_graham [mailto:aaron_t_graham@xxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:17 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
Sadly, #1506 hit a deer tonight. Headed westbound on I-74, between
Indianapolis and Urbana-Champaign, a deer struck my D while I was
going about 65. I was in the right hand lane, and it ran across from
the median. If you're saying "wow, that's unlucky!" then you don't
know me very well.
Fortunately, there isn't as much damage as I originally feared. The
front fascia is in bad shape, as well as the headlights and housings
on the driver's side. The front driver's side fender has been
whacked out of shape a little bit, the windshield is smashed, the
hood is bent slightly in front near the fascia on the left side, and
the driver's side mirror was ripped clean off. The front grill is
gone, too.
I didn't immediately see any other problems, other than the fact that
the car wouldn't start up again. The engine's in pretty good shape,
the electrical systems seem ok, and it was trying to turn over...
I have some questions, since a lot of people who read this list have
probably had similar encounters in the past (although probably not
with their Delorean):
1. Should I get a lawyer? I have progressive insurance, and my car
is insured for a large amount. They seem pretty helpful. However,
they *are* an insurance company... I have a clean driving record
(except for a speeding ticket in Montana in '97 -- stupid
libertarians!!), and I still pay out the wazoo for insurance. It's
time for them to finally pay up.
2. How do I go about making sure I get an accurate estimate for
repairs, and make sure that the insurance company pays the WHOLE bill?
3. Who should I get to do the work? Is this even an option for me,
or is the insurance company, in their infinite wisdom, going to try
to set me up somewhere? Should I have the car sent all the way to
someplace like Houston?
4. Anyone out there have a foggy idea how much a fix like this would
cost?
5. What other questions should I be asking?
Thanks in advance for your help. Hopefully, 1506 will be an up-and-
running daily driver once again within a month...
Aaron
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 18:15:53 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Auto tranny gov & shift solenoids
There is no reason to just change the solenoids. Visually examine them
and the wires and plug. Measure the resistance of the coils, it should
be equal and approximittly 0.25 ohms with infinite resistance to
ground. You could change th "O" rings. If there is a lot of materiel
in the pan you MUST clean the filter. Contact me offlist for the
procedure.(It can be done.) Don't forget to check the final drive
fluid level. On the automatic it is not part of the transmission in
that it has it's own fluid. Verify that the vacuum hose is connected
and not leaking to the modulater, and when it is all put back together
set the line pressure as per G:05:03. DO NOT MIX UP THE POSITION OF
THE TWO SOLENOIDS. See notice G:06:02. Also check the govenor control
cable adjustment as per G:05:02 and if you are really conciencious you
can check the micro same page. The linkage adjustment is rarely off
but that can also be checked and adjusted. BTW if you have a leak from
the trans at the linkage cable there is a fix for it.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxx> wrote:
>
> I'd like to replace the shift solenoids while I am at it. Does
anyone know
> where I can order these? If they are on the vendor websites, I
couldnt find
> them.
>
> Thanks, Adam
>
> >From: dherv10@xxxx
> >Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxx
> >To: dmcnews@xxxx
> >Subject: Re: [DML] Auto tranny governor
> >Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2002 22:08:33 EST
> >
> >Adam, Normally the governors can be upgraded with a few new parts.
I can
> >add
> >them and you can try it out.
> >John hervey
> >http://www.specialtauto.com/
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 13:44:47 EST
From: deloreanernst@xxxxxxx
Subject: leak on top of fuel pump (was: ...senator)
> I had an inch or two of gas
> on top of my fuel pump, right where the 2 wires connect to it. I imagine
> it's a leak where the hoses connect inside the fuel pump boot. What should
> be used to seal these 2 connections better?
>
>
Mike Pack well described the actual car that started the thread, but let me
add a few general observations, for the sake of the list.... The rubber boot
that supports the fuel pump may look smooth and supple at the top where you
can see it, yet it can still be extremely rotten and cracked where it sits in
the fuel. That's more than likely the source of fuel laying in a pump boot
neck, which of course is below the top level of the fuel, if you're fuller
than about a half tankful. Even a tiny crack can do it, especially since the
fuel tank is under pressure due to the fuel injection layout. When the
rubber gets gnarly like that, it's just impossible for it to get a good seal
around the neck of the fuel pump. How the heck the fuel pump can work with
the electrical contacts submerged is beyond me, although mine worked that way
too. You'd think it would at least be a short circuit situation. Check
carefully while it's apart. You'll probably need to replace more than just
the boot. An old, wimpy pick up hose can suction almost flat, starving and
soon wrecking the fuel pump itself, which is the most expensive component. I
replaced everything rubber back to the solid fuel lines, just to be sure, as
well as draining and cleaning the tank. The fuel lines that connect to the
top of the tank are special. Get them from a DeLorean vendor. He can cut
them to the correct length and even install the banjo fittings. Why waste
time struggling, when you could be driving, or at least working to pay for
your DeLorean? Your time is valuable, too!
Wayne A. Ernst
DMCTech Group
vin 11174
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 12:47:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Christian Williams <delorean@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
I'll chip in what little I can.
The car probably isn't starting because the inertia switch is tripped.
Look in the drivers footwell for a little black box mounted by the clutch.
Make sure the plunger on the top of it is not up. That turns off the fuel
pump in case of an accident.
Depending on where you are in the country, you have a few options for
getting a repair quote. If you're in the northeast/midwest, go to PJ Grady
in New York. If you're central/southern, check out Houston. Southeast,
have DMC JOE take a look, and if you're in the southwest, take it to Don
at DeLorean Motor Center.
And I'm not going to ask if the deer's okay. :)
-Christian
On Sat, 12 Jan 2002, aaron_t_graham wrote:
> Sadly, #1506 hit a deer tonight. Headed westbound on I-74, between
> Indianapolis and Urbana-Champaign, a deer struck my D while I was
> going about 65. I was in the right hand lane, and it ran across from
> the median. If you're saying "wow, that's unlucky!" then you don't
> know me very well.
>
> Fortunately, there isn't as much damage as I originally feared. The
> front fascia is in bad shape, as well as the headlights and housings
> on the driver's side. The front driver's side fender has been
> whacked out of shape a little bit, the windshield is smashed, the
> hood is bent slightly in front near the fascia on the left side, and
> the driver's side mirror was ripped clean off. The front grill is
> gone, too.
>
> I didn't immediately see any other problems, other than the fact that
> the car wouldn't start up again. The engine's in pretty good shape,
> the electrical systems seem ok, and it was trying to turn over...
>
> I have some questions, since a lot of people who read this list have
> probably had similar encounters in the past (although probably not
> with their Delorean):
>
> 1. Should I get a lawyer? I have progressive insurance, and my car
> is insured for a large amount. They seem pretty helpful. However,
> they *are* an insurance company... I have a clean driving record
> (except for a speeding ticket in Montana in '97 -- stupid
> libertarians!!), and I still pay out the wazoo for insurance. It's
> time for them to finally pay up.
>
> 2. How do I go about making sure I get an accurate estimate for
> repairs, and make sure that the insurance company pays the WHOLE bill?
>
> 3. Who should I get to do the work? Is this even an option for me,
> or is the insurance company, in their infinite wisdom, going to try
> to set me up somewhere? Should I have the car sent all the way to
> someplace like Houston?
>
> 4. Anyone out there have a foggy idea how much a fix like this would
> cost?
>
> 5. What other questions should I be asking?
>
> Thanks in advance for your help. Hopefully, 1506 will be an up-and-
> running daily driver once again within a month...
>
> Aaron
>
>
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:15:04 EST
From: jwit6@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: It happened one night. . .
I've been pulled over 2 times in mine and I've only had it on the road since
September. Once for a brake light out and once for going a little too fast in
front of my house (35 in a 25 - just pulled out of my drive). I don't think I
would have been stopped if I was in my Diamante....
Jim 6147
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 16:33:14 EST
From: jwit6@xxxxxx
Subject: Re: Advice needed: Unfortunate occurrance
I was told specifically by my Allstate agent that even if I didn't carry
collision on my D, that a deer strike would be covered under my
comprehensive. As far as getting it fixed, they'll probably squirm a bit and
want a local shop to do the work, along with finding the cheapest used or
repaired parts they can get. But I don't think you'd have a problem arguing
that a Delorean shop is the only place qualified to do the work. In which
case they're looking at higher transportation costs. I'd suggest you don't
sign away any of your rights until you're convinced you'll be getting the
service you've been paying your premiums for.
Jim 6147
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:39:44 +0000
From: Martin Gutkowski <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Auto tranny gov & shift solenoids
Hi All
The governor came out of #2727 today with the purpose of re-engineering the system for
longevity and to add functions such as semi-automatic shifting and adjustable
shift-points (and also so we know what to look for when James Grant brings his D down
next week - sticks in 2nd). The stock device is worth less than £15 in component value,
and the circuit itself shouldn't be too hard to reverse-engineer. It also has glaring
oversights in its design, as we all know. This is right up our street, and exactly the
sort of project Rich works at every day of his working week.
Watch this space...
Martin
#1458
ian wrote:
> Hi DMLers,
>
> With all this talk about Auto-Trans it reminds me...
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:10:49 +0100
From: "Stian Birkeland" <delorean@xxxxxxxxx>
Subject: BTTF VideoCamera
Ok, not completely DMC related, but -
Does anyone know what kind of red JVC videocamera Marty was using in BTTF ?
A model nr. of the type plus additional info would be nice...please e-mail me privately!
Mr. Stian Birkeland
Norway
VIN # 06759
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 15:45:27 -0500
From: "Walter Coe" <Whalt@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [humor] let's see the engine
A guy today asked to see the engine in my DeLorean. So I popped the hood
and showed him my trunk. There were a bunch of guys standing around, so we
all got a good laugh.
Walt Tampa, FL
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 21:09:02 -0800
From: id <ionicdesign@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: Insurance...
get the car appraised by a collector car appraiser and give a copy of that appraisal to
your insurance person. that way you will get the actual value of your car in case it
gets totaled or stolen and make sure you insurance person will insure your delorean to
its appraised value. i think you are paying what you should be paying for insurance for
your age with two speeding tickets.
mark
Adam Price wrote:
> I am 21 years old with two speeding tickets under my belt and I am paying
> $900.00 a year for full coverage on my Delorean. Is that good?
>
> Also I took the largest deductable that the company offered ($1000 dollar
> deductable). However they havent given me an actual set amount, for how much
> my car is ensured to... is this normal, or do they usually give you a dollar
> amount? How is this value determined? If the car is destroyed, I want to
> know how much I get! Eff.
>
> Adam 16683
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 03:25:21 -0800
From: "Adam Price" <acprice1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Mark Hershey's governor fixes....
I have been planning to mess with my auto tranny governor or a while now but
couldnt find anywhere that had axial tantalum caps with a good temperature
rating. I searched for weeks, and finally found a website that has some
badass caps! They are high temperature (200C!!!), wet, tantalum electrolytic
caps, "HAQ" and "HAR" types. They are designed for the aerospace industry.
They also have some solid ones, but the site didnt have a temperature rating
for them... I am going to call them on Monday and try to order some, they
have a distributor right in my town!
The website is www.vishay.com
Adam 16683 troublesome automatic
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 17:55:00 -0000
From: "jtrealtywebspannet" <jtrealty@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Accountants AA
It's even worse than that. AA admits to destruction of documents.
Documents that might tell what they knew and when they knew it. It
seems they DID learn something from the Delorean debacle when the
bankrupcy court made them come up with millions because of their duty
to the investers which they subverted to their fees from DMC. Not only
was there destruction of documents they were "double dipping". They
were collecting huge consulting fees along with accounting fees. AA
was not about to turn Enron in and kill the goose that was laying all
of those golden eggs! Who watches the watchers? AA should lose their
license to do business for this, they had a duty to protect the public
and did not. They will just pay a fine and go on with business as
usual. They will just add some obscure disclaimer language into their
future contracts for further protection. Until Congress and the rest
of government gets fed up with this stuff there will be no
improvements and Enron got to the highest levels of government. In
this case not only did all of the employees lose their livelyhood,
their pensions were lost too! Even DMC couldn't do that! Never mind
the investers who understood they were assuming some risk. The poor
employees were betting their future and didn't know it.
David Teitelbaum
vin 10757
--- In dmcnews@xxxx, Senatorpack@xxxx wrote:
>
>
> DML,
>
> Has anyone else been following the Financial Times recently? Did
you
> notice how Arthur Anderson was connected with Enron and DeLorean
Motor? Both
> companies were audited by Arthur Anderson the once prestigious
consultancy
> firm. During each companies demise, allegations of fraud, off shore
secret
> bank accounts, and executive misappropriations contributed to
defrauding of
> investors and eventually bankruptcy...ouch!
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 12 Jan 2002 23:29:05 -0500
From: "Dave Sontos" <dsontos@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: DeLorean Accountants AA
I thought I was the only one to pick that up.
----- Original Message -----
From: <Senatorpack@xxxxxx>
To: <dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:38 PM
Subject: [DML] DeLorean Accountants AA
>Has anyone else been following the Financial Times recently? Did >you
notice how Arthur Anderson was connected with Enron and >DeLorean Motor?
Both
> companies were audited by Arthur Anderson the once prestigious consultancy
> firm. During each companies demise, allegations of fraud, off shore secret
> bank accounts, and executive misappropriations contributed to defrauding
of
> investors and eventually bankruptcy...ouch!
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