Re: [doc] Re: Practical Classics Magazine
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Re: [doc] Re: Practical Classics Magazine
- From: Daniel Shane <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 20:47:19 +0000
Hi Mike,
The "DC-12" error was not in the pre-press proofs that they sent me before
the mag went out but was in the final hi-res PDF they sent me after it was
published.
I come from a press background and it's not unheard of for a font problem to
make text disappear. Happens to us all the time.
Dan
DMC Ltd.
On 19/2/06 20:29, "Mike Sumner" <mikebmw316@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I think you have got the wrong end of the stick Phil.
>
> I never said that the fact they have slated the DeLorean was a mistake,
> because I know that it's subjective.
>
> I said that the fact they have mirrored the picture of the DeLorean is a
> mistake (which it undeniably is).
>
> Also, the "DC-12" in the buyers' guide in the previous issue was also a
> mistake. I'm sure it wasn't intentional but then by definition no mistake is.
> I have nothing against journalists expressing their views, and I welcome that
> as it's the reason I buy Top Gear magazine every month, but I am against silly
> lttle mistakes and typos that could be easily avoided if someone took the time
> and troule to proof read what they have done before commiting it to the
> critical and observant eye of the buying public.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike Sumner - 178
>
>
>
> Phil Peters <PhilPeters@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> The trouble is, the classic car arena is hugely subjective when it comes
> down to what a particular individual would call a "good" or even "great" car.
>
> A case in point happened to me this morning: I was idly browsing the motoring
> classifieds in the Sunday papers at a friendâ??s house in London when I came
> across a dealer ad for an Italian sports car (which for the purposes of this
> exemplum shall remain nameless). The ad said that the car was an â??05 reg
> with 6K miles on the clock, yet it had ALREADY had a new clutch fitted. Ok,
> fair enough, so clutches in high performance cars are subject to an enormous
> amount of strain, but in my opinion this sort of component failure is totally
> unacceptable for a £75,000 sports car. However, in many peopleâ??s eyes this
> just â??par for the courseâ?? with an exotic. Itâ??s all subjective.
>
> As far as Practical Classics goes, I can see where youâ??re coming from in
> terms of the apparent display of inconsistency in what the magazine thinks
> about the DMC-12, but Iâ??m *pretty* convinced that the buyerâ??s guide was
> written by a freelance journalist (that right, Martin?), whereas the article
> you alluded to was presumably written by a member of the Practical Classics
> editorial staff who, apparently, holds a very different view of the car.
> Irritating to a DMC fan? Yes. A mistake? Probably not, sadly.
>
> If you read the â??staff sagasâ?? section of the Practical Classics, the
> various journalists quite often slag off each otherâ??s cars. One could argue
> that overall this is a very democratic form of journaliam: various opinions
> are presented and you can decide whether you agree or not. Chances are, most
> readers will already have an opinion about the car in question anyway. After
> all, the classic car arena is hugely subjective. Which is where I came inâ?¦
>
> Phil Peters
> DOC# 84
> VIN# 4400
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> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:06:07 +0000 (GMT) , Mike Sumner
> <mikebmw316@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> I might if I considered myself a reader of the mag, but I don't.
>>
>> I only bought the last issue because of the DeLorean buyers' guide and even
>> then the rest of the magazine didn't interest me much. As a result I only
>> looked at the current issue in the newsagents as there wasn't enough in it
>> for me to justify buying it.
>>
>> My preferred car mag is Top Gear, as they seem to get things accurate a lot
>> of the time, and don't tend to make silly mistakes (2 issue in a row), like
>> Practical Classics have.
>>
>> It shouldn't need someone to write to them about this sort of thing. They
>> are in business to produce something accurate and informative, and when they
>> do not do that they should be aware if it themselves.
>>
>> What irritates me is that neither of the 2 mistakes they have made have been
>> things that a quick glance wouldn't have picked up prior to going to print.
>> It's not as if they have got minute details wrong, but instead very
>> noticeable things.
>>
>> I just happen to notice things like this but then it is for subjects and
>> topics like this that the forum is for. There would be no point in it if
>> nobody had any observations to share with others.
>>
>> Why should it be that inaccuracy is accepted without being challenged.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Mike Sumner - 178
>>
>>
>>
>> Claire Usher <claire_usher71@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> well, thats what the 'readers letters' pages are for Mike :o)
>>
>> If you are irritated about the way that Practical Classics portray's
>> the car we all love, then why dont you put it in writing to them? If
>> no one tells them about their innacuracies and "scrappy journalism",
>> how can we ever hope that they might actually one day get their facts
>> right and print un-biased reports and views on the DeLorean.
>>
>> Just my 2p :o)
>>
>> Claire (looking forward to moving into her new home in Derybshire)
>> #2292 (looking forward to moving into her new double garage in
>> Derbyshire)
>> 1989 Cavalier 1.6L ("garage? whats a garage?")
>> DOC170
>>
>> --- In doc-uk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Mike Sumner <mikebmw316@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> I totally agree Chris.
>>>
>>> I couldn't believe what I was reading given that the buyers' guide
>> was very complementary of the car whereas the opening few lines of the
>> current DeLorean feature says something like "is this a good car, no".
>>>
>>> It's scrappy journalism really and very contradictory, but that's
>> life I suppose.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Mike Sumner - 178
>>>
>>
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