RE: [DMCForum] the EV1...
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I never claimed the article was without fault.  I know nickel is used in
more things besides hybrid batteries.  Still, the area where the nickel mine
is was supposedly damaged due to the mining.  No, I haven't been there and
haven't seen the mine personally so I can not attest to that.  The one thing
this writer states, that you have yet to provide, is specific facts that can
be verified.


This is pushing the limit of getting into politics, of which we have all
agreed not to do, but we have enough oil here in the US to get off foreign
dependency.  Gee, if we were only allowed to drill our own oil here, in the
gulf, and in ANWR.  Wow, a very fast and easy way to get off foreign oil
that could happen sooner than waiting for efficient hybrids!


I have no desire to spend $10k on top of the price of my truck to double the
gas mileage.  If I wanted a better mileage vehicle, and it suited my needs,
I would just go get one that already exists without the mark up.  Then
again, I earned the money I spend on my truck and my gasoline so if I want
to dump raw fuel out of the exhaust pipe I can.  Hang on while I remote
start my truck and let it idle for a bit.  :-)






From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf
Of Bob Brandys
Sent: Monday, September 10, 2007 9:47 PM
To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [DMCForum] the EV1...


Sort sighed article, myoptic in its analysis. Misleading it is 

Where are the cost savings associated with reduced CO2 emissions?
Oh, those are "Externalities" (in economic terms) so they are not 
quantified. BS

Where are the environmental costs of oil drilling and supply?. How 
about the cost savings of not
having a mideast war over oil of the future that will cost many 
trillions of dollars?

The cost of this stupid Iraq war is now almost $1 trillion dollars. 
That is about $10,000 per car in the US.
Spending $10,000 more on a car to double its mileage would eliminate 
the need for mid east oil.

Gee, wouldn't that be a good idea? Of course, at that point, there 
would be an over supply of
oil and the price would drop to below $1 per gallon. BUT WE WOULD BE 

The comments on nickel refining ASSUME that all the nickel is used in 
hybrid cars.
Get real. Most nickel is used in Stainless steel. This is just 
misleading and inaccurate perspective.
The amount of nickel used in NiMH batteries (which are recycled because 
of their very high value) is insignificant compared to SS.


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