Re: [DMCForum] Re: IRS help

[Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx>]

Bob,

I will agree that our system has many flaws, and that
wealthy people seem to be "above the law" in many
circumstances.

However, in a society where you are innocent until
proven guilty (in theory) the government must go
through an expensive process to prove someone is
guilty of even the smallest crime.

The Russian example you give sounds like a great idea,
until you consider how that power can be abused. 
Someone "in power" can simply say "Bob cheated on his
taxes, so we are going to take 50% of his income for
the next 10 years to pay the debt", when in reality
you did nothing wrong.

Sad thing is, the real crime is that anytime anyone
(Government, or private citizen) needs to get
themselves involved with the "legal system" it is an
expensive process for all.  You talk about the people
who operate the prisons getting rich, what about the
lawyers?!   :)



--- Bob Brandys <BobB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Marc, Greg,
> 
> Your responses were very interesting.  I guess, my
> perspective comes 
> from a much more broad based familiarity with legal
> system from around 
> the world, since I have dealth with the regulatory 
> system 
> internationally since 1975.
> 
> For example, in the Russian legal system, if someone
> does not pay taxes 
> or steals something, the loss to society is deducted
> from their 
> paycheck.  THEY ARE NOT SENT TO JAIL  which costs
> society even more 
> money.  (Of course  in the US, this money goes into
> the pockets of rich 
> people who run the prisons for the states).
> 
> If France, and most other EU countries, they deal
> with small crimes, 
> (e.g. drugs, illegal prostitute, illegal gambling,
> etc.) tax issues and 
> small dollar crime issues in similar ways, where the
> fines cover the 
> loss in tax review or money to the retail
> establishment. THEY DO NOT 
> SEND TO JAIL.
> 
> Remember debtors prison?  Most of the world had made
> them illegal for 
> hundreds of years.  Not the US.
> 
> The US has twice as many people in jail, per capita
> THEN ANY OTHER 
> COUNTRY.  US citizens are not bad, we just have a
> legal and penal 
> system that is screwed up so rich people can make
> more money.
> 
> Don't get me started on the FBI and other police
> experts who faking 
> evidence against innocent people.  You can read all
> the literature 
> about that.  1/3 of all people on death row in
> Illinois were INNOCENT, 
> proven by DNA evidence.  What kind of legal system
> is that?
> 
> Bob
> 
> 


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