[DMCForum] Re: Angle Drive Cable (Joe)

["content22207" <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

The chart is still taped to my binnacle lens. I simply removed the top
piece of tape and let it flip down, suspecting that the latest repair
wouldn't last. When it indeed failed the next day, I simply put
another piece of tape on top and continued motoring where I left off.

Time is relative when you're unemployed (and between school
semesters). I just spent 3 days resurrecting a $100 chain saw. Of
course when you're unemployed you don't have $100 to buy a replacement
chain saw, so resurrecting the old one is really your only option.
This is the balance of nature -- employed people don't have time to
screw around with broken crap but do have money to simply replace it,
and unemployed people have no money to replace their broken crap but
all the time in the world to fix it.

I just can't believe that a stupid angle drive is going to whoop me. I
have Jack somebody's (new owner in Maryland) old one, but his cable is
wound backwards as well and judging from the JB Weld on its end has
started unwinding as mine did. I've discovered the hard way that once
they do that there's really no stopping the progression. Since I have
a piece of 1/8" rod premanently attached to my wheel disc I am
tinkering with the idea of opening my gear housing up and replacing
what was the remaining stub cable end with a hard metal receiver of
some sort. Angle drive will be inserted from both sides of the spindle
-- long rod from the outside and short receiver from the inside.

Or I may just move everything over to the right hand side of the car
so I won't need to worry about backwards wound angle drive cables
anymore...

Bill Robertson
#5939 

>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien" <joeyoseppijoe@xxxx> wrote:
> Bill,
> 
> Whatever happened to that RPM chart? It was a handy thing to have if 
> the angle drive ever broke and you didn't want to risk speeding too 
> much.
> 
> 
> And buying a reproduction angle drive isn't admitting defeat, it IS 
> smart. Why waste hours & hours messing with junk when there is a 
> correct part to fix your problem. I could have probably fixed my old 
> angle drive, but who cares? It ain't worth the time or aggravation.
> 
> Isn't you time more valuable than kicking an almost dead horse when 
> there is an inexpensive fix available?
> 
> Just curious,
> 
> -Joe
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@xxxx> 
> wrote:
> > I'm still screwing around with the original factory unit. It's 
> become
> > a bit of a Sisyphian quest for me -- I'll make the stupid thing 
> work
> > again if it's the last thing my little silver car ever does. Were I
> > were smart I'd simply buy a reproduction unit and be done with it.
> > Guess I'm not smart.
> > 
> > The problem is: with each failure the spindle cable keeps getting
> > shorter & shorter. Now, it's unwound inside the gear housing. 
> Appears
> > I have no choice but to replace it. May as well use a cable wound 
> in
> > the right direction.
> > 
> > Or buy a reproduction unit from Houston. (Defeat? Never!)
> > 
> > I've been driving off my customized RPM chart for so long that I 
> may
> > actually miss it should I ever get the speedo working again.
> > 
> > Plus I'd probably have to slow down.
> > 
> > Bill Robertson
> > #5939
> > 
> > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Joe OBrien" 
> <joeyoseppijoe@xxxx> wrote:
> > > Bill,
> > > 
> > > 
> > > All these angle drive issues, are you having these problems with 
> a 
> > > new reproduction angle drive, or an old used angle drive?
> > > 
> > > -Joe
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" 
> <brobertson@xxxx> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > My gears still turn, yet the cable keeps unwinding. Last fix 
> was 
> > > to 
> > > > solder the remaining stub. Thought I had run solder all the 
> way 
> > > into
> > > > the gear housing, but apparently I didn't because that's where 
> it
> > > > unwound this time -- deep inside. I've never opened up a gear 
> > > housing,
> > > > but the time to do so apparently has arrived. Will be an 
> > > educational
> > > > experience because I've heard 2 different stories about the 
> gears: 
> > > 45
> > > > degree and ring/worm. 
> > > > 
> > > > Have you noticed that the lubrication hole is upside down? 
> Totally
> > > > useless. Installed on a right wheel however the lubrication 
> hole 
> > > would
> > > > be upright -- yet more evidence of DMC misapplication.
> > > > 
> > > > Perhaps the angle drive was intended for a speedometer magnet 
> that
> > > > spun in the other direction. I'm sure Smith Motor Accessories 
> Ltd
> > > > didn't tool up just for DMC. 
> > > > 
> > > > Bill Robertson
> > > > #5939
> > > > 
> > > > >--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Martin Gutkowski 
> <martin@xxxx> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > > content22207 wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > Haven't opened one up yet so I don't know if gears can be 
> > > flipped, but
> > > > > > I now have two Smith Motor Accessories units (and two 
> > > witnesses) with
> > > > > > the drive cable wound in the same direction as left wheel 
> > > rotation.
> > > > > > That's why they eventually unwind and turn into spaghetti.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yet more quality DMC engineering.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bill Robertson
> > > > > > #5939
> > > > > 
> > > > > No, they unwind because the angle drive jams.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I'm not arguing your point though - you're absolutely 
> correct 
> > > that they 
> > > > > should be wound the other way
> > > > > 
> > > > > The gears cannot be flipped. They are screw gears, and one 
> is 
> > > larger 
> > > > > than the other. Turning them around will no more reverse the 
> > > rotation 
> > > > > than turning a regular bolt around gives it a left-handed 
> thread
> > > > > 
> > > > > Martin

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