[DMCForum] Re: Electric powered DeLorean

["therealdmcvegas" <dmcvegas@xxxxxxx>]

I understand that many automakers are actively researching Hydrogen as
a fuel for their vehicles. But my question is do they view it as a
viable long-term solution for their industry? Or is this simply some
huge PR campaign to appease consumers, when they really have no
interest in persuing what they have created after everything is said
and done? Much like how GM dropped the EV-1, despite many consumer
objections.

If we had to ship in water from other countries, the international
outcry would be unimaginable. Pictures of staving kids in Africa who
can't eat, because we Americans *stole* the water that they need for
their crops, would be flashed across television stations world wide,
by anyone who already has an agenda against us. Not to mention many
humanitarians and eviornmentalists here, that are leading the anti
fossil fuel crusade, would then speak out about these practices.

Yes, oil corporations are not hurting for money, nor are many of the
stakeholders. However, any profit that stakeholders don't realize, but
still think that they could have made, is still deemed as a loss by
them. So any alternative fuel sources need to be profitable for them.

Even if we didn't take the corporations into consideration, there are
still the independant proprietors of gasoline stations. They profits
are not made at the pump, but rather from the sales of convience items
inside. Soda, chips, etc. Their goal of lowering prices is to attract
fuel buyers to their stations, in the hope that drivers will come in
to the store to buy something. In most cases, gasoline profits are
only 8¢-14¢ per gallon for the station. Inside sales are where the
money is made at. And now, we want to force these same people into
retrofitting their gas stations with brand new systems to dispence
hydrogen? Corporately owned stations have no problem with this. But
when it comes to the independat ones, they have to pay for that stuff
out of pocket. We'd need to give some serious tax, and/or insurance
incentives to these people, for storage tank retrofits.

Use of sewage/agricultural waste is a great solution that takes care
of both fuel, and disposal needs. Instead of paying someone to haul it
away, farmers & cities could instead get paid for their waste by
people who wish to turn it into energy. So there is great profit
potential, that may be able to hopefully counter all the subsities
that we currently have to pay out.

I still believe biodiesel to from waste to be a very viable solution,
since it can be readily available, and burns cleaner than petrolium
diesel. It's just sad that whenever people create these studies about
biofuels, they only write them off, because they don't meet gasoline
needs, where they could easily meet diesel needs, and methane conversions.

Diesel IMO is the way of the future. Don't get me wrong, I'm definetly
interested in hydrogen, and learning more about it. But I really only
see it as being feasable for light duty passenger cars. How would we
ever retrofit all those industrial diesel applications for generators,
marine, water pumps, etc?

I don't see a viable solution that encompasses all aspects here except
for synthetic fuels, rather than alternative ones.

-Robert

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