[DMCForum] Re: Right from Wrong.

["Flavia" <frvianna@xxxxxxxxx>]

Maybe Socrates' words weren't exaclty those that Farrar mentioned. 
HIs ideas are immortal, but there is the time factor too. First off, 
he never wrote anything, he was very smart but lazy, poor Plate had 
to do all the writing :)
Anyways, my point is that knowing better is not always enough, people 
must willing to do the right thing. I'll give an example that 
happened to me just recently, I have a "not very bright" roommate, 
who complained bc the town refused to take the trash (she was the one 
who put lose trash in the trash can on top of the bagged stuff) , so 
we had to "store" it for 1 whole week, actually she did it again last 
night, so this will be the 2nd week, argh. I already told her: stop 
tossing things in the trash when they are recyling, we don't need to 
build more trash and I don't admit that in my own house we don't 
recycle stuff like water bottles, and don't put trash out that is not 
bagged. I don't know if I explained my point well, but she knows 
recycling is for everyone's own good, and if she recycles, she has 
less trash, she still doesn't do it and complains we have too much 
trash (the recycling is always picked up every week, never builds 
up!) I think people can't see the big picture of what happens to 
zillions of cigarette butts or that you can't just go out killing 
people, or other things that common sense established that it's 
wrong. In spite of knowing the consequences, they still do it wrong, 
go figure! Human beings are weird :) 
And who was mentally ill? Hitler?

Coming back to the list.... Flavia
--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@xxxx> wrote:
> 
> I disagree with Socrates.  You think anyone who kills
> does it because they dont know any better (or are
> mentally ill)??  
> 
> How about the MILLIONS of smokers who toss their
> cigarette butts out the windows all day long?  You
> cant tell me they all think it is OK to litter!!
> 
> 
> --- Farrar Hudkins <fhudkins@xxxx> wrote:
> <SNIP> 
> > Socrates believed that all vice is caused by
> > ignorance, and that no man 
> > would do anything wrong if he knew better; and
> > likewise that virtue is 
> > knowledge, and one could eradicate bad thoughts and
> > deeds by 
> > enlightening oneself.
> > 
> > Unfortunately I don't think Socrates took into
> > account mental deficiency 
> > or disease.
> <SNIP>
> 
> 
> 
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