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So DeLorean's goal was to build a car that people would "track"?

I am confused.

Farrar Hudkins
#2613

On Jun 14, 2012, at 3:32 PM, Michael Griese <mike.griese@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> My point is, the DeLorean steering and suspension is built the way it is for a 
> reason. It is not a case of "bad design". 
> 
> --
> Mike
> 
> ________________________________
> From: content22207 <brobertson@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, June 14, 2012 12:31:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [DML] Forgot to Mention
> 
> Myself and others who are interested in this project do not drive LeMans. We do 
> not push our tires' contact path to their limit on a regular basis. Rather, we 
> GT cruise over what is left of America's highway infrastructure. Speaking only 
> for myself: I do not want to feel washboard pavement, tractor tire ruts, 
> potholes, patchwork repairs, etc transmitted through my steering wheel. In the 
> current state of our highway system, a little numbness would be appreciated. 
> Even my F150's with rudimentary I beam suspensions are smoother to steer over 
> bad pavement than my DeLorean.
> 
> Bill Robertson
> #5939
> 
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Michael Griese <mike.griese@...> wrote:
> >
> > Lotus didn't use rag joints in the steering on any of their cars except for 
> > maybe the Evora - I haven't looked at that model in sufficient detail to know 
> > but I would be surprised if they did. Rag joints numb the steering response and 
> >
> > feel.
> > 
> > A properly maintained steering system (which includes the front suspension) 
> > should not have regular vibrations. If it does, fix that problem first before 
> 
> > deciding if additional dampening is desired. What the Lotus design provides is 
> >
> > very tactile >vibration free< feedback from the contact patch of the front 
> > wheels to the drivers hands. That is very important for drivers who like to 
> > track their cars, and a significant number of Lotus owners do just that. 
> > Knowing when the tire is going over bumps, seams, uneven or loose pavement is 
> > good to know when you are pushing the contact patch to its limit. Rag joints 
> > also make it impossible to feel the tire tread moving around, which makes it 
> > hard to know when the contact patch is at the limit.
> > 
> > Personally I prefer manual steering cars with no rag joints. Cars like our BMW 
> >
> > 3 series or even the Boxster feel numb and disconnected from the road compared 
> 
> > to my Elise, Esprit and DeLorean. Most of that is due to the power steering 
> > systems. Our pickup is just hopeless.
> > 
> > --
> > Mike
> > 
> 
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> 


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