[DML] Big Silver Fish was : DeLorean Owners Association
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[DML] Big Silver Fish was : DeLorean Owners Association

Long story..Short version...Stolen/Recovered...Dumped in Long Island 
Sound...Submarine Delorean...Big silver fish in the bottom of Long 
Island Sound..That is why it needed a ground up restore..Funny part 
was when I was Disassembling it,...I got the car with the typical 
Ignition switch that was smashed off the steering Column...(they 
break them off then use a screwdriver to start the car)When I removed 
the Drivers seat...I found the Broken off ignition switch under the 
Drivers seat...WITH the key still in it IN THE RUNNING 
position...Smoking gun?? You do the Math! After that I knew It was 
done for Insurance pay-off,since in those days people were paying up 
to 35K for a new Delorean,then they dropped below 20K.
The ONLY thing I used from that car was the Frame/Black body and some 
SS panels,I picked up a One Month old Delorean (from NEW Dealer 
delivery)that got totaled,this was the car that started the Ball 
Joint Recalls(another story)and I used everything from that on the 
Submarine car.


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Kevin Abato <delorean@...> wrote:
> Why would you have done a "Ground Up restoration" in 1982-83 on a 
brand new
> car that was only 1-2 years old?
> Kevin Abato
> Vin# 16680
> www.grenexmedia.com
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of
> cbl1739
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2008 1:55 AM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] Re: DeLorean Owners Association
> In all fairness to the DOA and Mr.Bernstein(aka D1)In 1982-83 when 
I was
> doing my first ground up restore on a Delorean,I had zero knowledge 
on the
> Delorean's engineering,it was because of D1 and the DOA,that got me 
> with the repair books and all books needed (Delorean One)and parts 
> and DeloreanWorld with it's tech articles,and in Negative fairness 
D1 did
> charge me big bucks for everything I bought from them(hence my 
search for
> parts cars)There were "some" good years about the DOA,and the fact 
that when
> I called D1,they would indeed give me helpful advice(since I did 
spend a lot
> of money there,and was a member of the DOA.)Since in those days 
restoring a
> Delorean,indeed doing a ground up restore was unheard of,and I 
really had no
> one to turn to except D1 and DeloreanWorld(Pj Grady was not yet a 
> alone vendor yet)So I had not heard of his Business until sometime 
> 1986-87 or thereabouts.There was a local Delorean chapter and I did 
go to
> one of those Delorean get togethers(with my first Showcar 
Delorean)..but I
> was totally disappointed,when all I got out of the get together was 
> people there were trying to make a buck and selling their Crap 
> stuff,or trying/talking about  the best way of making a profit at 
these type
> of gatherings.Not much talk about the car itself..Never went back 
to the
> local chapter for that reason.So it was NOT just DOA (they did not 
help it
> either),but the local chapters that screwed things up too!!
> Claude
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Mike S." <drivestainless@> wrote:
> >
> > As a member of the DML moderating team, I am willing to give the
> DOA's
> > new regime the benefit of the doubt.
> > 
> > I would personally love to see the DOA succeed.  When I bought my 
> > DeLorean the existence of the DOA was one of the selling points.  
> > is nice to have a strong international organization with the 
> > of supporting owners.
> > 
> > Other makes/models of orphan cars have wonderful international
> clubs.  
> > 
> > But for a period the DOA's mission seemed to be increasing the
> selling
> > price of DeLoreans.  A lot of owners didn't care about DeLorean 
> > prices, and some potential owners even hoped prices would fall.
> This
> > was the early days of email lists, and frustration with the DOA's 
> > mission fueled rapid growth of the DML.
> > 
> > I'm interpreting for hundreds of people here, so don't take my 
> > for it.  The DML backissues contain much discussion of the DOA's
> mission.
> > 
> > When I bought my DeLorean the DOA had a monthly magazine, annual 
> > Expos, and a local chapter system.  During the same period that
> DMLers
> > were complaining about its mission, the DOA did away with all 
> > valuable assets.  The DML, other message boards and magazines, 
> > Koncelik, plus several vendors stepped in to fill the void.
> > 
> > Everything but the international club.
> > 
> > Why the DOA?
> > 
> > I think the name "DOA" is wittier than any other orphan car 
> If
> > there are scandals in the DOA's history I can live with them: 
> scandals
> > go with DeLoreans like water goes with Amphicars.
> > 
> > - Mike Substelny
> >   VIN 01280
> >   DML moderator
> >   Soon-to-be reactivated DOA member
> >


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