[DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.

["welmoedj" <joe.dalton@xxxxxxxxxx>]

You seem to overlook, or ignore the fact that John offered to take 
back the product if it does not satisfy Mark or David!

What you call a real question is your opinion.
For all I care and mentioned my car performs better overall and, what 
is proven, has a better fuel mileage.
Not just at your 75 Mph, no definitely not and not 30 mpg, no sir.

I mentioned my results not to be comparable with the result a Mark V 
might get. That's because my driving style may be totally different 
from his and he may come up with 30 mpg at 75 mph, while my figures 
(collected over a long period of time) concern a driving style that 
has higher highway averages, longer high speed distances and also 
regularly higher RPMs while taking of.

>From his point of view Mark has an easy start: take text out of their 
context and try to make the other look stupid. Fortunately my earlier 
messages are still here to take a look at.
Seems an easy way out, behave like you are a know-it-all, ask others 
to prove and then make a laugh of it.
Well, the laughs will be on you!

I never took the terms HP or torque into my text and still do not. 
Performance is for some indeed HP and Torque, but performance also is 
about efficiency, handling etc. And in that light I gave my 
information.

And about the question of a well tuned car: mine has done over 6000 
Miles in less than a year and never left me standing at the side of 
the road because of failures or refused service when starting. In my 
opinion this makes my car perform better than average, but I still do 
not talk about HP and torque.

Some say I do not get it, but I think I got it and you probably not.
My performance is not yours and fortunately I do not need to make 
your performance mine. I would not feel uncomfortably.

Welmoed.



--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Soma576@... wrote:
>
> 
> This is absolutely ridiculous.? I think many people on the DML 
would like to have this solved once and for all so the arguing can 
stop.? 
> 
> I don't see a single person on here saying the 'performance' parts 
don't work well in the DeLorean.? But it is truely surprising that a 
handful of DML'ers are either avoiding the real question or simply 
just don't get it.? 
> 
> The REAL QUESTION is "What Horsepower or Torque Advantage Will I 
Have When Using 'Performance Parts' Versus My NEW STOCK OEM (Not 25 
year old garbage) Parts?"? 
> 
> Why is it so unreasonable to provide this information or to ask the 
question?? The question is not whether it costs more, or does it fit, 
or is it 'proper' to put non-stock parts on, it's about what will 
someone like me, with 11596, which had a full OEM-style tune-up three 
years ago, runs?properly and gets 30 mpg on the interstate at 75 mph 
and starts immediately every single time??- what gain will someone 
like ME get???? 
> 
> Surely someone on here has access to a dyno.? Who out there 
does????? Once someone volunteers, I think Hervey needs to donate a 
tune-up kit so someone can put up some numbers.? It's unreasonable to 
make claims, then when someone asks you to prove it, to say I don't 
have to, but if you don't believe me, spend the cash so I make a 
profit on your tests.? It would be better for someone like Hervey to 
say, "I have so much confidence in my product, that I will LOAN it to 
someone who has a dyno to test it and prove the claims."? Then he 
gets his product back after a 5 minute run.? The catch would be to 
make sure the two or three runs are scientifically controlled, so 
that any variance is absolutely dependant on the parts used.? And it 
shouldn't be conducted by someone with a hot head...
> 
> So now, who has a dyno??
> 
> Andy 
> VIN 11596
> 

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