Re: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.

[DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah if I had original wore out parts on my car and I installed all  
of the stuff that was mentioned I would also have improved results.  
However if I installed stock specification new parts I would also  
have improved results over my old stuff.

To prove gains you have to take a test stock car, get a dyno baseline  
and then start adding your goodies, not remove wore out parts and put  
performance parts and say it runs and performs better because  
naturally it will when the worn out parts are removed.

Fact is I got a huge big performance noticeable gain installing new  
Plugs, Wires, cap and rotor back in 2003. However my Cap and Rotor  
were burnt to hell, my wires were original and my Plugs were way out  
of gap. Fact is that I would have noticed the same results with  
performance parts too after removing my old junk. That is no baseline  
to claim performance.

Yes when I wash and detail my car is does seem faster, it is all in  
the mind by cleaning and replacing makes things better.

Claims are one thing, Dyno numbers prove claims.

Mark V




On Oct 23, 2007, at 2:11 PM, John Hervey wrote:

> David,
> Don't your read the previous email that I sent that over 100 +  
> people that
> have bought my wires, coils and plugs have had improved results  
> with the
> products. Why would I want to spend the money to prove the point to  
> you or
> anyone else that these customers have already experienced.
> If you want to be the doubting Thomas and you must see hard  
> evidence then
> why don't you buy the kit and spend the money to prove it. I told  
> Mike the
> same thing.
> John Hervey
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On  
> Behalf Of
> David Teitelbaum
> Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 4:36 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.
>
> The fuel system on the Delorean was years ahead of it's contemporaries
> with the Bosch fuel injection when most other cars HAD carburators.
> The ignition system was also advanced for the time. I agree in the
> intervening years improvements have been made. My question still is
> can anyone show me data that these "performance" parts actually
> improve performance? If a vendor is offering these parts claiming
> improvement he should at least be able to back up his claims with some
> kind of testing and not subjective opinions. I understand not everyone
> has a dyno in their garage. But you CAN rent time on them. One of the
> reasons performance parts cost more than "ordinary" parts. I am not
> trying to "knock" performance parts or any specific vendor. Just back
> up your claims with some real #'s, not how much more voltage a coil
> can shoot out but verifiable, duplicatable testing. Until then all you
> have is opinions and guesses. You can object to my insisting on this
> and changing the subject but in the end the #'s matter, not my  
> opinion.
> David Teitelbaum
> vin 10757
>
>
>
>
> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "content22207" <brobertson@...> wrote:
>>
>> Wasn't carburetion good enough for 20 years?
>>
>> If you'd like to outfit your DeLorean for that level of technology,
>> I'll be more than glad to help.
>>
>> Bill Robertson
>> #5939
>>
>>> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "David Teitelbaum" <jtrealty@>  
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am not shooting any arrows at you but the stock OEM parts were
>>> plenty good enough for 20 years and they got the car certified by  
>>> the
>>> EPA.


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