RE: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.
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RE: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance.

My problem with all of these "performance improvements" is that 
there is never any data to back them up.  If these things really are
an improvement - prove it.  Put a standard, freshly tuned up car on 
a dyno for a baseline run.  Then make One Change and put the car 
back on the dyno and measure the difference.  Then put the old parts 
back on and put the car back on the dyno.  The first and third runs
should match, the middle run shows the improvement.  

Dave is right - you can't evaluate any new part as a performance 
improvement unless the part being replaced is running at it's optimum
specification.  It's like replacing a 25 year old, flat bald tire 
with a brand new properly inflated tire and claiming that it's 
an absolute performance improvement over the original spec tire.
You aren't comparing to an original spec tire - you are comparing 
to a 25 year old, flat bald tire.

Until there are measurements, it's all snake oil.


-------------- Original message from "John Hervey" <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>: -------------- 

> David, 
> So you still are running old blue coil and the stock wires and expect the 
> gain, performance or what ever you want to call it as good as an upgrade. 
> If this was the case then we would still be running some of the first cars 
> for racing at 30 mph. Bolt on performance has been around forever. Maybe 
> it's a performance better bolt, or a better air filter. 
> You need to wake up into the new world where there are better air filters, 
> better plugs and wires that weren't even thought of or around 30 years ago. 
> I don't think you are carrying around a dial telephone an expecting it to 
> perform as better as the Razor phones as today. 
> If I thought the way you're stating it then if the new phones aren't better 
> than the old phones then they would have done it. The products and 
> technology wasn't around then. 
> This is 2007 not 1981. Improvements have been made. 
> John Hervey 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of 
> David Teitelbaum 
> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 8:11 AM 
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
> Subject: [DML] Re: Bolt On Performance. 
> My point EXACTLY! Too many times someone will replace old, worn out 
> parts with some new "performance" part. They get a big difference 
> and give all of the credit to the "performance" part when in fact 
> ANY new part would have given the same improvement. 

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