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The basic reason people don't attend events is easy if it's not due to
money or work commitments.  People - either make or break a club.  It's
the same for all clubs & businesses.  That's the reason why members fall
away & become disinterested, other people and egos take over and before
you know it, fewer members.  That's why we should study our
history...look at what happened to DeLorean & this marquee car business?
Enough said and point proven. 

Joe   

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	Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? From: Tell you if you
ask. 
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	Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? From: conundrum1984 
	1c. 
	Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? From: Marc Levy 
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	Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? From: Kevin Abato 
	1e. 
	Re: OK guys and gals where is everybody? From: CHARLES MCKNIGHT 

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	Posted by: "Tell you if you ask." racuti1@xxxxxxxxxxxx
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	Mon Jul 23, 2007 5:02 am (PST) 

	I'll provide some feedback. I make no promises as to it's
usefulness 
	and of course I'm only speaking for myself.
	
	1. I belonged to the DMA for a year and attended one Spring
Social. I 
	believe that Maryland essentially represents the "southern
fringe" of 
	the DMA's coverage. Most of your members are farther north and
it's 
	easier for them to attend your events. Yes, you have an event
coming 
	in Delaware, but that's not the norm. Also, I don't intend to
offend, 
	but I'm just going to be brutally honest: I found the 
	atmosphere....somewhat less than cordial. That may simply be due
to a 
	difference in local cultures. I don't know.
	
	2. Cost -was- a factor for me then. Now it's not, but time is.
I've 
	only made it to the "Plakosh Foundation for DeLorean
Rehabilitation" 
	twice and a Spring Social, once so getting out of Maryland very
often 
	for group functions is difficult for me, just as it is for Jack.
By 
	the way, when you mention "people" who are willing to pay for a 
	vendor to come to Maryland, let me correct you: That's one
"person" 
	and he happens to be a VP at a company for a living. He owns 2 
	DeLoreans, one is hopped up and a Dodge "super" charger. He can 
	afford to suggest flying in a vendor. The rest of us are working

	stiffs and no one else volunteered any such service.
	
	3. The DMA isn't "awful". For a lot of us, it just isn't
"practical". 
	It's easier to drive up the road to a fellow owner's house to
meet up.
	The insurance is an interesting point. I guess that it's a nice
thing 
	to have but if I have to be protected by insurance to hang out
with 
	my "friends" and do work on their cars that -they- have asked
for my 
	help with, then I guess they aren't really my friends. I mean
really, 
	if you ask for my help KNOWING that I'm not an authorized
mechanic or 
	vendor and something goes wrong, who's fault is that? If you're
that 
	concerned about the repair then you should take your car to Mt.
Joy's 
	or a vendor. I guess we're just a "litigation nation".
	
	That's pretty much why I refuse to take a wrench to anyone
else's car 
	except my own anymore, or accept anyone's offer of help with my
car. 
	I don't want to be responsible and I don't want to blame anyone
else. 
	I've also had some bad experiences where it just became
"expected" 
	that I would perform work on people's cars. Those experiences
made me 
	examine myself and I noticed that I too, was starting to adopt
an 
	attitude that certain people would just always be around to help
me 
	work on my DeLorean. I didn't like that so I've adopted a "Don't
Ask, 
	Don't Help" policy. Since a lot of gatherings are "tech
sessions", I 
	opt out and this further reduces my social interaction with the 
	DeLorean community.
	
	Now that you have input from a few people, hopefully that will
answer 
	your original question: "What is so awful about the DMA?"
	
	#5335
	--- In DMCMD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:DMCMD%40yahoogroups.com> ,
Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote:
	>
	> I know some of you take offense to us "jersey guys",
	> or "DMA guys" on your list, but as an officer of the
	> club I am always interested in why someone would not
	> join the DMA?
	> 
	> Clearly, it can't be the money.. If people are
	> willing to pay to fly vendors in and put them in a
	> hotel, then the $15 for DMA membership is a huge
	> bargain.
	> 
	> Attendees at this years spring social had Rob Grady,
	> Ken Koncelik, and I inspecting cars, adjusting doors,
	> and doing other small repairs. Everyone was fed a
	> home cooked lunch and we were well stocked with cold
	> drinks. All for $15 PER FAMILY! Not to mention the
	> amazing selection of raffle prizes. 3 couples walked
	> away winning a weekend away in Boston!
	> 
	> Now we have the summer run coming up, and again all
	> members and their families are being fed for free.
	> 
	> The Fall Tour promises to be another great one (Bernie
	> and Matt came last year, and seemed to enjoy it), and
	> will be right in your back yard.
	> 
	> So, enlighten me.. What is so awful about the DMA?
	> 
	> 
	> 
	> 
	> 
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	Mon Jul 23, 2007 7:06 am (PST) 

	I wish I could've made it to the DMA Spring Event because the
fall
	tour was fun. Right now I got a problem with time and money to
be
	honest. Things are kind of weird at work and I can't do much
about
	it. There's so much I would like to do to my car and many places
I
	would like to go. I can make it to an event in MD or Pittsburg
for a
	day because either way it is a 2.5 hour drive from where I'm
located.
	2.5 hours to the nearest active DeLorean memeber too whether it
be
	Pittsbiurg or the eastern part of MD. Anything out of that right
now,
	I'm limited. I would like to see the MD guys have a get together
for
	once though. I miss talking to everyone. What do I need to do? 
	Arrange another trip to see the gold car?
	
	Matt
	VIN: 2953
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	Posted by: "Marc Levy" malevy_nj@xxxxxxxxx
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	Mon Jul 23, 2007 9:19 am (PST) 

	I would not mind a trip to the gold car. I have seen
	it before, but would like to meet the owner.
	
	maybe we can do the Tucker's too?
	
	--- conundrum1984 <jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jeepno1_397%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
	
	> I wish I could've made it to the DMA Spring Event
	> because the fall
	> tour was fun. Right now I got a problem with time
	> and money to be
	> honest. Things are kind of weird at work and I
	> can't do much about
	> it. There's so much I would like to do to my car
	> and many places I
	> would like to go. I can make it to an event in MD
	> or Pittsburg for a
	> day because either way it is a 2.5 hour drive from
	> where I'm located.
	> 2.5 hours to the nearest active DeLorean memeber
	> too whether it be
	> Pittsbiurg or the eastern part of MD. Anything out
	> of that right now,
	> I'm limited. I would like to see the MD guys have a
	> get together for
	> once though. I miss talking to everyone. What do I
	> need to do? 
	> Arrange another trip to see the gold car?
	> 
	> Matt
	> VIN: 2953
	> Frostburg, MD
	> 
	> 
	
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	Mon Jul 23, 2007 10:07 am (PST) 

	Never seen the gold car, but would like to!
	
	Kevin Abato
	Vin# 16680 
	
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	I would not mind a trip to the gold car. I have seen it before,
but would
	like to meet the owner.
	
	maybe we can do the Tucker's too?
	
	--- conundrum1984 <jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx
<mailto:jeepno1_397%40hotmail.com> > wrote:
	
	> I wish I could've made it to the DMA Spring Event because the
fall 
	> tour was fun. Right now I got a problem with time and money to
be 
	> honest. Things are kind of weird at work and I can't do much
about 
	> it. There's so much I would like to do to my car and many
places I 
	> would like to go. I can make it to an event in MD or Pittsburg
for a 
	> day because either way it is a 2.5 hour drive from where I'm
located.
	> 2.5 hours to the nearest active DeLorean memeber too whether
it be 
	> Pittsbiurg or the eastern part of MD. Anything out of that
right now, 
	> I'm limited. I would like to see the MD guys have a get
together for 
	> once though. I miss talking to everyone. What do I need to do?
	> Arrange another trip to see the gold car?
	> 
	> Matt
	> VIN: 2953
	> Frostburg, MD
	> 
	> 
	
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	Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:59 pm (PST) 

	That would be cool. Hopefully I would be able to go this time.
	
	-Chuck McKnight
	
	>>> "conundrum1984" <jeepno1_397@xxxxxxxxxxx
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	What do I need to do? 
	Arrange another trip to see the gold car?
	
	Matt
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