Re: [DML] Re: Question and strange car show behavior

["Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

[MODERATOR NOTE: EVEN IF THIS IS DELOREAN RELATED, I WILL NOT ALLOW A LENGTHY DISCUSSION COMPARING THE DELOREAN TO EVERY CAR EVER BUILT.  EVERYONE LOVES TO EXPRESS THEIR OPINION, BUT NOT EVERYONE WANT TO READ IT. THIS THREAD WILL BE CUT OFF SOON.  - Mike Substelny, DML moderator of the week]


What "Ford" are you referring to?
I have owned 4 Taurus's over the years, a 87, 92, 94 & 98 and never has a 
single problem
from any of them, and replaced them at about 125K-185K, and simply for the 
reason
that I wanted a new car. There was almost no wear on the car at all.
...although my Mom had a '85 F150 and it was a real crapper.
Now many people will say, "hey, you can't compare a newer modern car with 
the
DeLorean, there is different technology" - EXACTLY.
Why not bring the car into this millinium?
By replaceing the engine, transmission and electrical system you would have 
a
car that would keep up with today's cars.
It would be fast and powerfull, much more so than the PRV.
I am not suggesting that everyone do this....it's just an idea.

I don't mind a thoughtful rebuttal, every car will have mechanical problems.
The problems I mentioned are relevant on most every DMC out there.
If these problems haven't presented themselves yet,they will.
The only way to have a reliable daily driver (in my opinion) is to replace 
all
of the troubled items on the car - we all know what they are.

I admit, the source of most of these problems is letting the car sit and 
rot.
Why would that happen?
...usually the car get's parked due to some quirky problem that never get's 
fixed
and it sits there until it's ruined and more stuff needs replacing.

To get more to the point, the real point of my comments were not so much 
about
reliability, but about lack of horse power.
Would you like to compare various vehicles with more or less horse power?
Exactly what will that prove and how will it make my car go faster?

There is a big difference between bashing the car and talking about 
improvements
and known issues. Being argumentitive and defensive about the car isn't 
going to solve anything.

- VB


>From: kjc <ckevinj@xxxxxxxxx>
>Reply-To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Question and strange car show behavior
>Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 22:01:36 -0500
>
> >
> > providing that you don't have a fuel pump problem,
>
>
>Not on the DMC, yes on the 10 year-newer Ford pickup. Also a severe
>fuel-sender problem on one of the tanks, you didn't write that one down.
>
>high idle, computer burn out,
>
>
>Again, on the Ford, not the DMC. And actually, even the Ford has been 
>pretty
>nice to me.
>
>brake system and all the hoses your car should be pretty safe.
>
>
>Just the Ford again... though the D has hit 40k, so I really ought to
>inspect the pads for wear.
>
>of your car as long as your door lock solenoids are working OK.
> > If your AC fan stops blowing, I hope you can roll your windows down
> > because
> > most people can't.
>
>
>Damn Ford again.. stupid locks still a pain (elec borked, passenger 
>movement
>nigh impossible) and window motors near death. DMC is a-ok.
>
>Sure, the PRV and the DeLorean is a pretty good and reliable car as long as
> > you
> > pretty much restore and replace about everything on the car.
> > Of course, a 20+ year old car needs work... but the problems
>
>
>So I don't know. There were some issues coming off the line, but comparing
>~10k units including pre-production to what Ford does for a new model let
>alone an F-150 that has been around forever (Noah owned right after he got
>rid of the big boat) and I think it is suprisingly bug free. My old Ford 
>may
>or may not catch fire after I use the cruise control. It's a gamble. I've
>spent way more on the Ford this year than I have in the DMC in two, and I
>begrudge every dollar on it because I adore the D and want to improve it a
>bit.
>Don't get me wrong. It's a nice pickup-- roomy and strong. It just needs a
>lot of paint, it's got some rattles, needs working locks and windows, needs
>a fuel sender fixed, the A/C might be about to give me some issues.
>But I'd rather just drive it and spend the money on the performance exhaust
>from DMCH to get that fun sound and a wee bit more power. The Hyundai's
>don't generally give me any trouble, but there are some others that I could
>use a bit more power.
>
>-Kevin





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