Re: [DML] Re: Value of VIN 16118, ebay 928 mile? car NEED ADVICE

[Packodenton@xxxxxxx]

The stainless looks showroom, as does the fascias & trim. The interior  is 
very clean with the exception of the steering wheel pad, console, togle  switch 
and cassette holder under the binnacle.
 
I would keep the car as a concours competitor along with my current  driver.
 
I have the extra parts, and after checking NOS seat covers and the  console 
cover.
 
I don't care for the tar undercoating either.
 
The car has the original fluids with the exception of the oil &  filter.
 
Sincerely,
Mike
In a message dated 06/03/2005 9:49:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
swingle@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:

My  opinions FWIW

There's a lot of discussion on the concours list about  the 
undercoating - but that's another story. IMO I don't like it because  
it can actually mask frame degradation, makes working under the car  
very unpleasant, and looks ugly. But that's just my opinion. I have  
not seen that it impacts the value of the car in general, but it  
certainly would to me. Use it as a bargaining point if nothing  else.

The console part, if actually NLA NOS, is certainly available  from 
one of the used-parts traders. The center steering wheel pad is  
probably fine as long as they didn't punch a hole in it for the  
emblem. Same for the console panel.


It's hard to set a price  not having seen the car and not knowing your 
intended use/personal value.  Do you value function over originality? 
I know you are a much  better-than-average DIY mechanic so the 
mechanical stuff shouldn't scare  you, in your case I'd be most 
worried about non-reversible modifications.  The 26/28 figure seems 
like a reasonable price for a pristine, properly  stored, un-restored 
car IF it is completly functional. If this is one of  those "original" 
cars that still has the original coolant, brake fluid,  mouse nests, 
and gasoline from 1984 in it, then it's not a fair  price.

Recovering the seats seems to run in the $800 range now,  
unfortunately you'd probably need to recover them both to get a good  
match. 

The zip-ties on the cooling hoses may be original, you  didn't say 
where they are but some of those are genuine DMC  parts.

Dave Swingle


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx,  Packodenton@xxxx wrote:
> 
> Hello Gentleman:
>   
> Here in Pittsburgh to purchase VIN 16118.
>  
> Had  to deal with three sales people so far, and I am pretty close 
to a   
> purchase price. 
>  
> The car is a low mile 1983,  with 928 miles on the odometer. There 
are a few  
> questions I  have;
>  
> 1) The undercarriage is undercoated with tar.  Some DeLoreans were 
prepared  
> at the docks in Belfast and  the QAC's to hide the rust from the sea 
air. Is 
> this  a  problem especially with the sensitivity of the DMC chassis?
>   
> 2) the center arm rest area/window switch area has been modified to  
include  
> a toggle switch & warning light, I suspect for  the cooling fans. 
This part  is 
> no longer  available?
>  
> 3) frame tow hooks are badly bent  from  towing the car.
>  
> 4) the cooling system hoses have a  plastic tie wraps holding the 
hoses  
> together.
>   
> 5) there is a small chuck missing from the lower passenger seat  
cover. It  is 
> noticeable
>  
> 6) center  steering pad has a DMC pin glued onto it.
>  
> 7) the  shifter plate for automatic has a thermostat hot glued to it 
where   
> the 1981 clocks are located.





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