RE: [DML] Re: Neverending Ignition Controversy

["John Hervey" <john@xxxx>]

Bill, As you know the blue / yellow wire coming from the solenoid is only
working when the solenoid is engaged. This eliminates only 1/2 of the
resistor. If you want to eliminate the resistor you can move the white wire
on top right to bottom right and the resistor is eliminated. Couple that
with the Pertronix coil at 1.5 ohm and your in business. Even the Blaster 2
at .7 ohms should be ok, but it was really made to work with their
electronics unit.
John Hervey
www.specialtauto.com



-----Original Message-----
From: content22207 [mailto:brobertson@xxxx]
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:52 PM
To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [DML] Re: Neverending Ignition Controversy


To answer your question first: yes, bridging DeLo resistors WILL
increase spark voltage. In fact DMC factory design starting relay does
that every time you turn the key. (That's what the relay next to them
is for).

Now my question: Why does my simple $30 ignition coil continue to
bother you so?

Are many *OTHER* DeLo owners reporting improved performance from
higher voltage coils. Why don't you ever flame them?

MSD, Pertronix, Mallory, Jacobs, and even Accel have built quite an
industry out of nothing but "nice high numbers on boxes" BTW.

Could point you towards just as many websites (vs books) that say I'm
right and you're wrong, but what would that accomplish -- we'd end up
right back here in original disagreement.

Let's agree one more time to disagree, then not waste any more bandwidth.

Bill Robertson
#5939

>--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Elvis Nocita" <elvisnocita@xxxx> wrote:
>
> Bill, you'r wrong again ;-)
> I will agree with you in some points, but not in the way you
> try to explain it or think it is working. If you're interested
> I can scan you some pictures of some books I have and that explain
> the ignition system very good. With some simple physical laws
> you will understand why there's never a higher voltage than about
> 20k volt on the ignition - as long as each part is ok.
>
> If your coil stores more energy than the stock unit, then you may
> get some advantage of it. If only the ratio between primary and
secondary
> winding is higher than stock - you won't gain anything.(but you will get
> some nice and very high numbers on the box of the coil...that only
> tell that it is the max voltage if no spark can occure...)
>
> I see you know and understand a lot about cars, fuel and stuff, why not
> try to understand the ignition, too ? that's something our car
> mechanics learn at school and with the analyzer (oszilloscope) they
> can tell you which part of the system has problems or not...(I learned
> a lot the last days while reading this stuff)
>
> If stock iginition is set up too weak, then I should feel a difference
> by bridging one of the two resistors, right ? (for a few minutes
only, there
> won't be a problem with overheating or something.)
> If this makes a difference, the next step would be to find out which
coil
> would fit our cars without damaging the ECU or something. Maybe we
can get
> some informations from BOSCH...because Coil may be cheap, the ECU is
not.
> (by the way, my filters are clean, the fluids ok, the oil will be
changed
> before the winter - just my steering is still shaking when braking
> and nobody could tel me yet why ?!?!?!(new rotors installed!!!!!))
>
> Elvis & 6548
>
> ....
> Should be obvious by now that you and I will never agree on this
> issue. Humbly suggest you not get so worked up about it. Even if
> higher voltage coils had no benefit at all:
> 1) are my cars to configure as I wish
> 2) ignition coil usually costs less than any other item on engine
> 3) are 1001 other things you should be asking me about but never do:
> condition of filters, time since last fluid changes, etc
>
> Bill Robertson
> #5939



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