[DML] Re: Another DMC newbie

["Alex" <alex@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I am saying that I was informed by a vendor that the engine was in 
fact a PRV. All the things that looked "unoriginal" were traced and 
explained. If you climbed in the car now, you wouldn't smell a bit 
of smoke. All gone. I did a ton of work to the car, and its really 
coming along. The engine thing gets on my nerves though; the engine 
is identical to the B28!! The "extra" parts that were "rigged" were 
additions, and that's all. John Hervey and I went over the car 
thoroughly, and figured out what they were. One hose patched in was 
the extra temperature sensor for the extra gauge. The other was for 
the oil pressure gauge. The throttle switch was put on backwards, 
that's all!!!! Oh yeah, fuel lines were steel not rubber. There is 
no more "rigging" on the car. There is NO smoke smell, and the 
engine is original. The shift plate with the holes drilled was 
replaced. Toggle switches removed, and replaced with brand new dummy 
switches. When John came down to visit, he brought and installed a 
new alternator, passenger window switch, and helped fix a few other 
things. All in all, there is not THAT much wrong with the car. So 
far you guys have effectively scared off any potential buyers, and I 
really don't see what the point is. I am NOT lying to anyone; I am 
telling it like it is. The car is a good buy, and for about $5k 
could be in amazing shape. That's all there is too it.

Yeah, I probably could have washed it, and will if this rain ever 
lets up.


--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Videobob Moseley" <videobob@xxxx> 
wrote:
> 
> [Moderator Note: Although the discussion is getting close to ugly, 
so far no one has violated the rules.  If everyone keeps it 
civilized and puts their names to personal knowledge and experiences 
instead of opinions this thread will go on.  Step over the line and 
this thread is history.  - Mike Substelny, DML moderator of the week]
> 
> 
> Alex, I haven't been following this thread, but are you saying 
that the 
> engine in the car is the original PRV engine?
> 
> I know for fact that it isn't, and you have said yourself that it 
isn't when 
> you took it to DMCH and they told that they didn't want to work on 
it because it was a non-standard 2.7 liter version of the Volvo 
engine.
> 
> I met with the previous owner Raphael who bought the car new, and 
he blew 
> the original engine many years ago when he let it overheat. He 
replaced it with this smaller engine and "rigged" the rest. I 
believe he tossed the extra blown engine into the deal right?
> 
> I visited with him a year ago and drove the car myself, I have 
lots of 
> detailed photos of it including the VIN number.
> 
> I could tell that the entire interior needed replacing, if not for 
the 
> stains fading and cracks but for the nicotine drenched smell of a 
chain smoker.
> The inside carpet was filthy, the headliner stained and brown, the 
dash 
> cracked like the salt flats, the console has had all sorts of 
holes drilled in it with cheap toggle switches to replace all of the 
automatic electronics in the car, the rear wireing looks like a 
spaghetti explosion.....
> The body is straight and clean, but the steering was stiff... 
however I 
> think you fixed that right?  What I remember most about the car 
was how much effort it was to shift gears, I figured they were all 
like this but have learned they are not.
> 
> I looked at the photos in your auction and it looks like you have 
cleaned it 
> up a lot, but the brown staining on all of the dash leather is 
seen in the photos and you do mention in the ad that these things 
need to be addressed.  The dash, binnacle, knee pads, center 
console, shift plate, arm rests, interior carpets and head liners 
all need to be replaced to get rid of the smoke smell, and to be 
clean and new looking. No amount of carpet shampooing or cleaning 
will fix this. You would be better off spray painting the leather 
grey with vinyl paint in the mean time.  This would make it look 
better and help seal up the moldy smoke smell.
> 
> Alex, you know I am not saying anything untrue unless of course 
you have 
> fixed all of this stuff since then. I hate to toss you under the 
bus but I am just telling the truth. I have about 20 detailed photos 
of the car, the interior, the engine and the  vin number along with 
me and the owner, Raphael.
> 
> I think this car needs about $5000 worth of cosmetics, or maybe is 
a perfect 
> restoration and good canidate for Houston's new interior package, 
along with thier new crate/engine upgrade. But as it sits, it would 
not satisfy most people.
> The body however is very clean.
> 
> I would think that $8000 would be the max you could get for your 
car unless 
> you did some major work. I think you should keep it, gut it out, 
replace the interior and get someone  who really knows engines to 
fix it up for you.
> 
> I appologize for saying all these negative things about your car, 
but to be 
> honest with you that is what this forum is for. No one ever cuts 
me a break on here either.
> 
> I think your ad is honest for the most part, but the engine is not 
original
> and is also not an original PRV.
> 
> I told you long ago when you asked me about it that you had made a 
mistake 
> buying the car, and that you are faced with taking a loss, in 
either selling the 
> car for much less than you paid for it or investing more money 
into it to get it right.  Either way is will cost you about $5000, 
either in loss or investment.
> 
> Remember the $20,000 rule.
> You can't get around it!
> (unless of course you win a raffle car!)
> 
> - Videobob

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