[DML] Re: 17000 Vins..

["Mike Walsh" <yahoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I bought #17084 last spring. At PF I met and talked to an owner of a 
17000 series car that WAS converted back (can't remember the vin). I 
personally saw the standard instrument cluster. I don't remember if 
it had the plate for the radio interference or not. I do remember 
checking out the stickers because mine, and every one of this series 
that I have seen (8+ so far), DID NOT have the bilingual stickers 
(French and English) as shown in the concour judging book. This 
owner said it was bought from KAPAC already converted. All 17000 
series cars that I have seen (or can make out in pictures) have the 
straight exhaust tips.

The first owner of 17084 bought it from a dealer who purchased a 
number of them from KAPAC and was sold in Feb '83. Apparently this 
dealer bought as many as they could and sold one to this guy and 2 
more to his friends at the same time. The story I was told (this guy 
had done quite a bit of research before he bought it) was that these 
cars WERE assembled at the factory but did not make it over here 
before the bankruptcy so they were brought over along with the 
parts. The car was NOT assembled out of spare parts in Ohio, but he 
suspected that some of the 20000 series may have been. The dealer 
who sold them was in Oakville Ontario, and I have confirmed that at 
least one other 17000 series car came from there. I suspect the 
majority of these cars went through that dealer. I still have not 
made it there yet, but apparently they still have some parts 
collecting dust on the shelves. There is also a rumor that there is 
also a few cars which were "shrink wrapped" and still hidden away at 
this dealership. I do plan on dropping in to see what parts they 
have and try to get a list of which vins they sold and the dates. 
Funny thing is I will be driving past the place today - if it is 
still open I will try to stop in.

>From what I can see, only the instrument cluster, radio interference 
plate, and the small straight exhaust tips identifies this series of 
cars. I mentioned it a few weeks ago but under the head liner was 
the vin (on both doors) #12084, exactly 500 off my vin. In addition, 
even though the build date is Oct '83 there seems to be a date of 
Aug '83 written there too. 

As far as #17707 - it is a typo. The car belongs to Marvin Stein of 
London Ontario who was at PF. It should actually be 17107.


Mike Walsh
#17084








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