[DML] Re: DOA, and car club politics.

["outatime81" <outatime81@xxxxxxxxx>]

Here is my suggestion to you Marc.  Pick up the phone call Ken and 
YOU can relay to the group the details of your conversation.  You 
labeling him as "unwilling" is negative and totally unfair.  How 
about you take the lead since you are now slamming me for not 
relaying all the details of my talk with him.  

Tom Watkins

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Marc Levy <malevy_nj@...> wrote:
>
> That was me!!  Although, not exactly what I said; It was something 
more along the lines of "it should be documented".  I am sure Ken B 
has the e-mail I sent him.
> 
> So, what is so wrong about having a public record of what was 
said?  Many of the complaints about the DOA have been secrecy.  Why 
is Ken B unwilling to simply publish exactly what he told you on the 
telephone for all of us to read?
> 
> Why don't you tell us what he said, instead of just how you felt 
about what he said?
> 
> Lots of people read the DML.  Isn't it easier for the DOA to get 
the word out on this list instead of taking 1000+ calls from all of 
the readers one at a time?
> 
> Just as a general statement, there are 2 reasons people get in 
to "politics" (even if it is as minor as the politics of a car 
club).  First reason is for power over SOMETHING (ANYTHING), ego and 
admiration.  The other reason is for the good of the community.  My 
experience has taught me that politicians who want to keep things 
secret are NOT doing what is in the best for the "people" (or 
members).  If they were, they would have no problem making sure it is 
well documented.  Even if someone becomes an officer "to serve", 
sometimes those people slowly become power hungry.  Keeping 
everything public is the best way to stop that from happening.... 
*ALL* clubs should heed this warning.  :)
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 6/19/08, outatime81 <outatime81@...> wrote:
> 
> the same. There is nothing sinister about his wanting to talk to 
> people on the phone....for God's sake! It's my understanding one of 
> you "wanted it in writing". If all of you jump down this guys 
> throat we may lose a change at someone who seems to REALLY care 
> about the future of our community.
>



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