Re: [DML] Re: Gullwing Doors on Any Car

[mike wolterbeek <drsafety101@xxxxxxxxx>]

Alas, we may fail to see the physics of crashing.  Crumple zones destroy the car but lessen the passenger impact.  Stiff chassis may lead to a repairable car but a dead driver.
   
  http://members.aol.com/CErick5563/physics/crumple.html
  

cbl1739 <cbl302@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
          
Truthfully...which car would you rather be in.....

Delorean

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mjd2NTJU9g

OR

Bricklin 

http://bricklin.org/BI_CrashTest.htm

Also that Bricklin crash test done at a even higher speed than the 
Delorean and was REPAIRED and sold after the crash test... notice the 
passenger compartment is still in one piece,also the hood was 
undamaged!!I don't think the Delorean in that crash test ever saw 
passengers again.. 

Claude

--- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Tom Tait" <TTait@...> wrote:
>
> I know I've heard a tale of a Delorean ending up on its roof after
> rolling several times, perhaps told by Marty M? I understood that 
in
> this case the driver received only minor injuries.
> 
> 
> 
> The solution at hand for that driver was to kick out the windshield 
and
> crawl out.
> 
> 
> 
> I'd add to that the suggestion that one might take care not to 
damage
> the rear view mirror if possible, no point in adding further damage,
> right?
> 
> 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
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> From: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf
> Of DMCVIN6683
> Sent: Monday, December 17, 2007 4:07 PM
> To: dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [DML] Re: Gullwing Doors on Any Car
> 
> 
> 
> True safety vehicle huh, when it is rolled over on its top how do 
you 
> get out?
> 
> Mark V
> 
> On Dec 17, 2007, at 3:13 PM, cbl1739 wrote:
> 
> > Actually, The Bricklin HAD It's own Engineered frame,it DID NOT 
come
> > from any other vehicle in production,it WAS made/engineered as a
> > Safety Sports Vehicle...Bricklin (SV-1)(the same as DMC had 
started
> > onto the Delorean,(DSV) but later just switched to DMC)the Massive
> > frame along the side of the Bricklin was put/engineered there for 
the
> > Safety of the passengers,(for side impact) the Gullwing doors were
> > part of the safety cage "birdcage"(in Bricklin terms)that totally
> > surrounded the passengers,just think of a massive square frame
> > running along all sides of the car,then a MASSIVE FULL safety cage
> > is installed on top of that frame(roll cage)So basically Not only 
do
> > you have a massive frame running along the side of the 
Bricklin..but
> > you have a SECOND frame bolted on top of that(the safety cage)
making
> > it IMPOSSIBLE to put anything but Gullwing doors...or GT-40 style
> > doors..Again the Bricklin is Truly a Gullwing car/Safety
> > Vehicle...There was NO WAY around not putting gullwing doors on
> > it...The four things that were all Bricklin is the Engineered
> > Frame/Safety cage, and the Body and the body panels and 
wiring..just
> > like the Delorean..which had it's own engineered frame Body and 
Body
> > panels and wiring.And like the Delorean..everything else was from
> > other cars parts bin.
> >
> > Claude
> >
> > --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dmcnews%
40yahoogroups.com> ,
> DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@> wrote:
> >>
> >> They designed the Bricklin with Gullwing doors just like they
> >> designed the Delorean to have Gullwing doors, they could of
> > dropped
> >> the body-line down to accommodate regular doors but who would 
have
> >> bought the car then?
> >>
> >> Yes the Bricklin used a STOCK Ford frame but do you see any Fords
> >> with Gullwing's?
> >>
> >> Ford I guess should of had Gullwing's on the Car that used that
> > Frame
> >> then.
> >>
> >> It is all about Design and the Bricklin could of been designed
> > better
> >> to use regular doors and all of the other things that were bad
> > about
> >> the Bricklin, but that is a whole different topic that does not
> > need
> >> to be discussed on a Delorean forum.
> >>
> >>
> >> Mark V
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Dec 16, 2007, at 9:52 PM, cbl1739 wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have to strongly disagree with the Bricklin doors being only 
for
> >>> appearence... Yes for appearence...BUT...If normal doors were to
> > be
> >>> put on a Bricklin it would be VERY VERY hard to egress into and
> > out
> >>> of a Bricklin since it Does have a Rather MASSIVE Frame(think
> > Ford F-
> >>> 350 frame)running along side the car,that is very high on the
> > side of
> >>> the car,just as with the Mercedes Gullwing,that is what/why they
> > have
> >>> the lower black panel it hides the Massive frame that runs along
> > side
> >>> the car..About the ONLY way to put normal doors on a
> > Bricklin,would
> >>> be to have Basically the same style Doors as Fords GT-40 in 
which
> > the
> >>> doors are part of the roof(basically Gullwing doors but hindged
> > like
> >>> a the normal door.
> >>> On the other hand The Delorean could have had doors like the 
Lotus
> >>> Esprit,which would have also been nice as a option.
> >>>
> >>> Claude
> >>> Bricklin 1024
> >>> since 1980
> >>>
> >>
> >>
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