Re: [DML] Re: Gullwing Doors on Any Car
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Re: [DML] Re: Gullwing Doors on Any Car
- From: DMCVIN6683 <dmcvin6683@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2007 16:48:23 -0600
I agree no car really needs Gullwing or Lambo Doors, they are only
put there for appearance.
Bricklin did it the same reason why Delorean did it.
Mark V
On Dec 16, 2007, at 3:00 PM, Joe Angell wrote:
> I think he's more arguing that the DeLorean, Bricklin and especially
> the Mercedes doors actually look like a gull's wings when opened. The
> DMC didn't NEED them, but the Bricklin and Mercedes could have also
> come up with other ways to get in and out too (sliding the entire
> forward cockpit forward, do what Ford GT or whatever does where it
> takes part of the roof with it when you open the otherwise
> conventional door, etc).
>
> There are two conversion door kits that I noticed on the site. One is
> for scissor doors like on Lamborghinis, which rotate upward and
> forward from a hinge below the A-pillar (basically). The conversion
> kits, however, require the doors to swing out a little to clear the A-
> pillar before they can swing up (if you look at a car that was
> designed for scissor doors, the A-pillar is inset a little so the door
> can swing straight up). They can be used in what I've heard described
> as "girlfriend mode", and act like normal hinged doors.
>
> To me, the "gullwing" conversion kit is more of a "minivan hatchback
> mechanism for your doors" kit. The doors appear to be hinged at the
> at the edge of the roof. It seems they can be optionally motorized
> via linear actuators as well. I'm too lazy to download the
> instructions and see exactly how it's installed (also, the
> instructions link seems to be broken), or if a more traditional
> gullwing look can be obtained by cutting part of the roof as well.
>
> http://www.thehoffmangroup.com/autoloc/product.lasso?
> prodinc=gullwingdoors
>
> A few years ago I met a guy who does scissor door conversions (they
> make the kits; not sure if these are the same guys). He said they get
> a lot of requests for gullwings, but that it is difficult because of
> the extra strength the roof needs to support the doors. I'm not sure
> if he meant this "edge of the roof" style or a "true" gullwing design
> where part of the roof comes with the doors and looks like a gull's
> wing (more or less).
>
> Still, not bad for $500, if you're into that kind of thing.
>
> -- Joe
>
>> Actually the Delorean does not have "true" Gullwing doors,yes it does
>> have Gullwing doors,BUT true Gullwing doors were installed/used
>> because of the frame belt line running high across the sides of the
>> car making normal doors inpractical,Both the Mercedes Gullwing and
>> the Bricklin SV-1 had/have a "true" need for Gullwing doors,thus they
>> are truly Gullwing cars,Deloreans have no high beltline frame running
>> alongside the car,needing gullwing doors,they are there as a selling
>> feature and as a sensable alternative to regular doors,But NOT really
>> needed.
>>
>>
>>
>> --- In dmcnews@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, "Bob Cutrupi" <Delorean3@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Will these kits work on the Delorean?
>>>
>>> (kidding)
>>>
>
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