Re: [DML] Super Charged/EFI
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Re: [DML] Super Charged/EFI
- From: Steve Stankiewicz <protodelorean@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sun, 16 Jan 2005 08:44:11 -0800 (PST)
Hi Martin. The TEC3 uses a wasted spark technique
also. (There are actually only three coils, each
firing two cylinders.)
Steve
--- Martin Gutkowski <martin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Steve
>
> Yeah, we're "lucky" but the snag is that it only
> works if you're going
> to use the stock ECU as the trigger wheel is
> bizarre. With the 25 turbo,
> even if I had an ecu, I wouldn't want to use it as
> it uses a speed sense
> to limit boost in low gears, has a top end of under
> a bar of boost and I
> don't have the IACV valve for wastegate control (and
> don't need it with
> the size of the D's rear tyres). It also uses an
> idlespeed mixture
> control valve. The ECU for the Alpine A610 would be
> good but is set up
> for a 3 litre lump. I looked at Electromotive thanks
> to your site but
> the price put me off big-time. I was thinking of
> doing exactly as you
> with the trigger wheel but spacing out the
> compressor, water pump
> pulley, alternator pulley and ac idlers out by 1/8"
> to accommodate the
> trigger wheel, but the SDS system just uses magnets
> on the pulley - much
> easier, and although it's sneered at a little in the
> TEC3 manual, I
> don't see that it will be much less accurate-
> perhaps a tiny fraction,
> but they (say they) get around it by making sure
> they use decent coil
> packs with a good duration on the plug.
>
> Quick question for you: are you using full
> sequential ignition? It's
> completely unnecessary (the Renault setup uses
> wasted spark) but it
> occurred to me in the pub just now (very condusive
> to clarity of
> thought!) that my RPM signal is going to be 2x what
> my Rev counter wants
> and will screw up the idlespeed system as well as
> the rev counter. On
> the SDS there's no idlespeed control but the
> idlespeed valve on the R25
> is unsurprisingly identical to the DeLorean's so I
> can just use a idle
> microswitch (handy therefore that the throttle pot
> incorporates one
> anyway!) and the original system.
>
> Just in case there're still other people reading
> this thread and haven't
> yet fallen asleep, I've put some pics of my engine
> at the following URL.
> I took these shots mainly so I had some record of
> how everything came
> apart. Yes it's really dirty - it sat in this guy's
> back garden for 2
> years but internally it's as sound as a pound with
> only the timing chain
> guides showing any real wear. I'm going to have
> everything tested anyay
> but I expect the crank to be spot on - the bearings
> are all still pearly
> white and the bores aren't scored. This engine was
> very much de-tuned
> for the 25 Turbo
>
> http://www.delorean.co.uk/turboprv.zip
>
> One of the photos shows the flywheel and you can see
> it's identical to
> the DeLorean's except for the trigger wheel
>
> Martin
>
> Steve Stankiewicz wrote:
>
> >>
> >>
> >That's where you've got one up on us here in the
> >States. With no access to that bellhousing, I went
> >through the trouble of carefully trimming the
> trigger
> >ring off of the Eagle's automatic flexplate,
> indexing
> >it, adding tabs and attaching it to the Delorean
> >flywheel, then adding a pickup mount on the
> Delorean
> >bellhousing only to bail out on the whole system
> and
> >go with the aftermarket fuel management system.
> >
> >Can't wait to see how your setup turns out!
> >
> >If you need any photos or measurements off of the
> >Eagle engines, just let me know.
> >
> >=====
> >Steve
> >
>
>
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