Re: FRAM E-Z Oil Change

["therealdmcvegas" <DMCVegas@xxxx>]

--- In dmcnews@xxxx, Watkins Family <watbmv@xxxx> wrote:
> I know we are on a "Fram sucks" thread but, has anyone seen 
the new
> "SURE DRAIN" product from FRAM? 
<SNIP>

Ironicly enough, I myself have already installed one of these. But 
not on the DeLorean though. I've got one on my pickup truck. It 
does install easy. How well it drains oil, I won't know for about 
2600 more miles though! After installing it, I am a bit concerned 
that it won't drain all of the oil out. It does after all have a bit of a 
lip on the inner bolt inside of the oil pan. But it shouldn't be all 
that bad, becase the pan itself does have the plug at the lowest 
point. Other than that, the long hose that it comes with looks to 
be a bit messy. So I'll probably just trim it down a bit.

Looking at the unit, it may be possible to install onto the 
DeLorean oil pan. But due to the cramped space around the 
drain plug, it would be easier for me to just stick wth the existing 
plug. The most mess that I ever have when changing my oil is 
just a couple of drops on my gloves. So for the amount of labor it 
would take to connect the plug, I'd probably just use the idea of 
covering the crossbrace with disposable foil. Although right now, 
I just wipe it down with a laundered shop rag. For the D, it's not 
something I plan on installing. But it is a novel idea. If nothing 
else, you don't need to search around for the correct socket. And 
I imagine that it will become quite a profitable item for FRAM. I 
wonder how many people will end up buying a 2nd unit because 
they've lost the drain hose between now and their next oil 
change...

While I personally will never again use their oil filters, I've never 
had a problem with anything else FRAM has made for my other 
vehicles like air filters, PCV valves, etc... Hopefully the Sure Drain 
system will be one of the items on the useful list for my other 
vehicles.

-Robert
vin 6585 "X"