Re: Trailing Arm Bolts - Engineering
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Re: Trailing Arm Bolts - Engineering
- From: tobyp@xxxx
- Date: Wed, 14 Nov 2001 00:26:54 -0000
Hello Group - I though that I'd "weigh in" on two points that were
brought out here. BTW - I am very happy to see some "considering" and
"pondering" going on here ... it is important for everyone's learning
to gather different viewpoints on specific issues.
For the first point, "brittle bolt breaking", as noted in David's
first paragraph; This IS a concern when the bolt is "pushed to it's
limits". Based on my previously noted calculations, we are at, or
above, the yield limits for the current TAB. The inevitable result is
bending to the point of yielding, fatigue damage, and ultimately,
fracture due to fatigue cracking. I also noted that the stresses are
at about 1/2 the limit of my bolts. You can't generate enough load in
the system to reach the limit of 200 KSI yield strength in the Inconel
material that I have selected. The entire rear suspension (rubber
bushings, washers, trailing arm assembly) will fail long before my
bolts are stressed even close to their capability.
The second point that David brings up is the retorqueing issue for
bolts. He is absolutely correct in that, "When using bolts and nuts
close to their yield point ...", retorqueing can result in stretching
and yielding. This allows joint loosening, which requires that you
continue to retorque - until the bolt fails in tension. As noted
above, the current TAB is near it's yield stress point just from the
installation torque. This is before any loads are applied to it from
driving. When my bolts are torqued, the stresses are far below the
"elastic limit" (sorry for getting technical again!), and there will
be no permanent (called plastic) stretching of the material. The
Inconel bolts can be torqued an infinite number of times, barring any
damage to the threads, and never suffer from "plastic deformation".
Okay ... I'm done for now. Thanks for your patience with me.
BTW - I have received indications of interest for 31 sets of bolts so
far. I will keep the list posted (so to speak) on whether this
project will be economically feasible for myself and Specialty
Automotive, based on being able to move the majority of the first
batch of 100 sets that I have discussed with the manufacturer.
Thank you, David, for your sound advice below on proper maintenance
procedures that all should follow on every car. When in doubt, read
the instructions!
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