Re: [DMCForum] ATTN: Bob Brandys (Re: AMC)
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Re: [DMCForum] ATTN: Bob Brandys (Re: AMC)

> What vintage are you speaking of? In the 1960's and 1970's, AMC did
> indeed have a deservedly bad rep for rust. So starting with the 1980
> model year they revamped their entire assembly process to combat that
> image.

Go read my post AGAIN, I said 70's and 80's era cars, and yes that  
included all the UGLY ASS Eagle cars they made too. Fact all I see on  
the road left over from AMC is the Eagle Talons, they must have been  
made right, Carboratorless.

> Went exclusively to galvanized sheetmetal (giant ventilator
> hoods evacuated the welding fumes), added a primer bath to the
> assembly line, made Zeibarting standard (every other company offered
> it as an option) and so on. Cost a fortune, and AMC never recovered
> the investment. Works excellently though. I once accidentally
> purchased a Spirit that originated in Michigan, of all places. Gas
> tank and the entire brake system were of course gone, but the body was
> nearly perfect. That, my friend, is serious shit, not bullshit.
> Don't you remember the TV commercial where AMC drove a Concord off a
> dock into the ocean, left it there to stew, then pulled it out later
> with no rust effects whatsoever?

I am sure all car will do this to an extent, it all depends how long  
the car sat. If you want to buy my Delorean I will try it in an Ocean  
for a while.

> I defy you to find an AMC Eagle with anything remotely similar to the
> rust effects that even stablemate Jeeps suffered (the Jeep assembly
> process wasn't modified as the passenger cars were).

Next time I am in a Salvage Yard up here in Wisconsin I will take a  
couple of rolls of film for you, I am sure you will think I  
photoshopped the rust on them so I wont even develop the film if you  

> BTW: Holes where Zeibart was sprayed were not drilled -- they are part
> of the normal stamping process. Every car has them -- even DeLoreans
> (inside the door).

I seen drilled holes with plastic caps stuck in them and I asked when  
I was a kid and I was told that is where they injected the rust  
proofing. It really doesn't matter, like I said I see everything else  
on the road except for AMC cars. if I want to see an AMC I have to  
look hard at a car show or visit a Salvage yard!

> Bill Robertson
> #5939
>> --- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, delorean <delorean@...> wrote:
>> I remember up here in Wisconsin how AMC's would rust out like no
>> Tomorrow. the holes they drilled in to add rustproofing eventually
>> held in water and accelerated the rust process because they would
>> rust out around the drill holes.
>> Maybe down south where you live they held up but up here with the
>> road salt they rusted just as bad as any other car.
>> The funniest part is I see every old car from the 70's and 80's
>> driving on the road, if I want to see an AMC from that era I have to
>> go to a car show because the rest are all rusted to shit!
>> Now that is some Bullshit about AMC not rusting!
>> Mark V
>> On Jan 11, 2008, at 9:21 AM, content22207 wrote:
>>> Don't know how much time you spend on the List, but I've been waving
>>> the flag of our fallen marque:
>>> Everyone's all "ooh ooh" over DMC's epoxy coated low carbon sheet
>>> metal frame. How innovative. Best rust protection of its time.  
>>> DMC was
>>> running circles around every other car company.
>>> Bullshit.
>>> By 1980, AMC was light years ahead of everyone in the rust  
>>> prevention
>>> department -- DMC included:
>>> - 100% galvanized sheet metal (heavier gauge than anyone else, thank
>>> you very much)
>>> - Assembled vehicle dipped in a primer bath
>>> - Zeibart sprayed in all body cavities
>>> - Plastic wheel well liners
>>> - Best exterior enamel ever used (full of lead -- that's why it
>>> adheres so well)
>>> Unfortunately your Pacers were a tad early for this comprehensive
>>> program.
>>> Bill Robertson
>>> #5939
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