[DMCForum] Re: Pinto vs Hornet
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[DMCForum] Re: Pinto vs Hornet

AMC Hornet beat the Ford Pinto to market by a year (1970 vs 1971).

"Sportabout" wagon appeared late in the year. My records lump its 
production numbers in with 1971 models: 73,000. Annual sales 
averaged 40,000 thereafter.

Bob obviously has a hard on for the Pacer, but in his defense AMC 
did build 354,000 of the things (5 year production run). Put those 
numbers up against Dunmurry....

Bill Robertson

>--- In DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Jack Stiefel <jack@...> wrote:
> If that was the case then so was my parents Pinto Wagon??? Lol
> From Merriam Webster dictionary:
> sport-utility vehicle
> One entry found.
> sport-utility vehicle
> Main Entry:
> sportâ?"util·i·ty vehicle [cid:image001.gif@...] 
> Pronunciation:
> \Ë?spoÌ?rt-yü-Ë?ti-lÉ?-tÄ"-\
> Function:
> noun
> Date:
> 1978
> : a rugged automotive vehicle similar to a station wagon but built 
on a light-truck chassis â?"called also sport-ute \-Ë?yüt\ sport-
utility, SUV
> If I am not mistaken the Pacer was not built on a truck chasis?
> Now from Wikipedia entry for Hatchback:
> AMC introduced a hatchback version to its larger 
Hornet<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Hornet> models in 1973. The 
Hornet was restyled and renamed the 
Concord<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Concord> (a Concord 
hatchback was made for 1978 and 1979 only) while smaller Gremlin was 
restyled and renamed the AMC 
Spirit<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Spirit> in 1979. However, 
the far more characteristic AMC 
Pacer<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMC_Pacer> debuted in 1975. It 
was the first modern "cab-
forward<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cab_forward>" vehicle design 
that focused on interior space with short and rounded overhangs. The 
Pacer's aerodynamic<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aerodynamic> and 
jelly bean shaped hatchback stood out among the square, formal, box-
type designs that were prevalent all the way through the early 1980s.
> The Pacer was NOT an SUV lol.  It was just an old car that had a 
nice sized engine and a hatchback.  Some say cute, some say awful, 
take your pick.  In the end it is just another relic of a dead car 
company.  Yes, I know they were bought and made part of Chrysler, 
but lets not split hairs.
> Jack Stiefel - Tampa, Florida
> Stiefel Aluminum Inc
> DMC Vin 03461 & 16879
> ________________________________
> From: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Bob Brandys
> Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2008 10:06 AM
> To: DMCForum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [DMCForum] Re: SUV Origins
> The pacer was the first SUV. Just cutting pieces of other cars, as
> examples, is not the "SUV package."
> Look at the PACER body lines compared to ALL SUVs, they are
> essentially parallel.
> and The pacer had the lift gate.
> and The pacer had the performance
> and The pacer had rack and pinion steering
> and the Pacer was bigger and wider
> The pacer was the first complete SUV package.
> Bob.
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

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